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Dollhouse needs a new network. I'm sure that ABC or CBS, even NBC, could make this show popular. Bryce Send a noteboard - 09/10/2009 06:40:27 AM
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First it was FOX's "Glee" and "The Cleveland Show", now CBS has given full season orders to "NCIS: Los Angeles" and "The Good Wife" which have become the two highest rating new Fall dramas of the season.


I liked the premiere of Glee, but haven't had a chance to see the newer Fall episodes. I'm having trouble getting into the Cleveland Show because I hate the voices of both the sons.

Ranked second among all primetime programs behind only its predecessor, "NCIS: Los Angeles" is averaging 17.47 million viewers and a 4.1/11 rating in adults 18-49. 'Wife', starring Julianna Marguiles, is averaging 13.70 million viewers and a 3.0/8 rating in adults 18-49. The show consistently wins its time period in all key measures each week.

On the whole networks are giving their new shows a little bit of breathing room to flourish it seems with only one outright cancellation so far ("The Beautiful Life" ). New shows also looking likely to get full season orders are "The Vampire Diaries", "Modern Family, "Cougar Town" and "FlashForward".


FlashForward I like. Only one from the previous two paragraphs I've tuned in for.

More on the fence are several of the new sitcoms including "Hank," "The Middle" and "Community" which all need a few more weeks to play out but are looking likely to get the full season order.


It's a bit weird seeing Zoe (Jordan Hinson) from Eureka playing a different character (and regressed in age back to 15 again) on Hank. Strangely, not so weird seeing Frasier (Kelsey Grammer) in a very non-Frasier role. It didn't really pull me in. Unfortunately, it's been years since I've enjoyed a sitcom with a laugh track. I've only seen one episode of Community, but it wasn't bad. I think it's something I'd watch if it wasn't airing against FlashForward tonight.

Shows that definitely need to pick up viewership or face the axe soon include "Accidentally on Purpose," "Brothers", "Eastwick," "The Forgotten," "Melrose Place", and reality series "Shark Tank".


Haven't seen any of the above, but I'm okay with Eastwick failing because it frees up Jaime Ray Newman to return to Eureka for Season 4 (as Tess). I pegged The Forgotten as a quick to be canceled series as soon as I heard about it.

The most notable trend this season is that viewers don't want any more medical dramas with all three new hospital-themed shows "Mercy," "Three Rivers" and "Trauma" premiering to dismal numbers and unlikely to last more than a few weeks each. Existing medical hits "House" and "Grey's Anatomy" however have improved on drops from last year.


Amen. I had a bad feeling about three new medical dramas all trying to come in where there's no real void for them to fill. I have no idea about the quality of these new shows (as I haven't seen them), but I'm not surprised at all by the lack of viewers.

Several pre-existing shows aren't going too well with "Castle," "Cold Case," "Dollhouse," "Fringe," "Gary Unmarried," "Heroes," "Law & Order," "New Adventures of Old Christine," "Parks & Recreation," "Smallville" and "Til Death" all losing decent sized shares of their audience and have dropped to their lowest ratings yet. Renewals beyond this season look highly uncertain, and in some cases they may not last out the current season.


I'm sorry "Castle"... but you're airing against Monday Night Football. I watched you in the Spring, and I'll watch you again after the NFL regular season ends... if you're still around.

I haven't seen a whole lot of marketing for Dollhouse and Fringe, but I know the viewers they have really enjoy them and are pushing for them. I'm a little behind on both shows. Have to get caught up on DVD and Hulu.

I'm way behind on Heroes, too. So I can't really lobby for its continued existence. Pretty sure I've seen all of Season 1 and 2... and I'm tentative about the latter half of 2. Wish I had more money for DVD sets.

Other pre-existing shows however are holding steady or improving on their numbers meaning they'll not just last until May but are pretty certain to be be back next season. These include "90210," "American Dad," "The Big Bang Theory," "Bones," "Criminal Minds," all three "CSI" shows, "Desperate Housewives," "Family Guy," "Ghost Whisperer," "Gossip Girl," "How I Met Your Mother," "Law & Order: SVU," "Lie to Me," "Medium," "The Mentalist," "Numbers," "The Office," "One Tree Hill," "Private Practice," "The Simpsons," "Supernatural" and "Two And A Half Men".

"30 Rock" and "Ugly Betty" don't return until next week.


It's funny... out of that last bit, I think I only watch Family Guy and sometimes The Office (1 hr Wedding episode for Jim and Pam tonight).
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American Network TV... Who is Doing Well and Who Needs More Viewers TaskmasterJack - 08/10/2009 05:07:20 PM 839 Views
Really...The Cleveland Show?? Brian - 08/10/2009 05:16:10 PM 462 Views
I can't stand the show either... MightyYT - 08/10/2009 06:45:44 PM 469 Views
Re: I can't stand the show either... TaskmasterJack - 08/10/2009 06:52:12 PM 398 Views
He shows up in a couple of episodes... MightyYT - 09/10/2009 12:41:49 AM 463 Views
About Cleveland scalius - 08/10/2009 08:55:42 PM 467 Views
I hear if Dollhouse tanks on Saturday then it's gone Monkey - 08/10/2009 05:30:06 PM 487 Views
You mean Friday, right? Craig - 08/10/2009 11:48:26 PM 482 Views
Oops Monkey - 09/10/2009 07:07:49 AM 490 Views
So you're the reason the ratings are so poor! False information! Craig - 10/10/2009 06:25:27 PM 478 Views
I don't know why they think Castle will draw particularly well against MNF... silly. Jacob - 08/10/2009 06:25:51 PM 490 Views
I think they should move Castle to Tuesdays at 9 MightyYT - 08/10/2009 06:48:04 PM 489 Views
Cougar Town is amusing. Not as good as United States of Tara or Weeds, though. The Shrike - 08/10/2009 07:13:01 PM 495 Views
I'd agree about the network standards, but... Legolas - 08/10/2009 07:41:10 PM 438 Views
Shows do not work that way here. Aside from the Eastern/Central pairing, The Shrike - 08/10/2009 09:07:35 PM 451 Views
Ah, that makes more sense. Legolas - 08/10/2009 10:00:28 PM 452 Views
I'm unsure. Something like American Idol? I dont know what the cutoff times are or how they do it. The Shrike - 09/10/2009 05:03:59 AM 418 Views
I hope Dollhouse and Fringe start to improve soon. Dreaded Anomaly - 08/10/2009 07:41:37 PM 481 Views
FlashForward, woohooo! ironclad - 08/10/2009 07:46:51 PM 488 Views
Re: American Network TV... Who is Doing Well and Who Needs More Viewers mapthis - 08/10/2009 08:04:30 PM 493 Views
Dollhouse needs a new network. I'm sure that ABC or CBS, even NBC, could make this show popular. Bryce - 09/10/2009 06:40:27 AM 561 Views
If FOX drops it, I think its best chance for ratings success would by the SyFy Channel. TaskmasterJack - 09/10/2009 06:31:53 PM 481 Views
Re: American Network TV... Who is Doing Well and Who Needs More Viewers Browncoat Emma - 09/10/2009 11:02:11 AM 674 Views
I've watched Community for the last 3 weeks. Sareitha Sedai - 09/10/2009 09:34:56 PM 491 Views
American Network TV still exists??? And people watch it? Tom - 09/10/2009 10:04:03 PM 435 Views
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