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Re: You're making me reply to two posts Duke Send a noteboard - 29/12/2015 05:24:39 AM

View original postThat said, I think there is a deeper story as to why he fell to the dark side. I don't think Luke is as innocent as we suspect. In some way he failed Ren and this led to a fall. It will be good if they demonize Skywalker and let us almost support the dark side for a while and then switch it again.

I think that it was failings on Luke's part. He never had full training as a Jedi. Unless after RoTJ he communed with Yoda and Obi-wan to complete his training? Just like Obi-wan "I thought I could train him as well as Master Yoda."

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Star Wars : The Force Awakens review (spoiler free) Sidious - 17/12/2015 09:18:26 AM 2169 Views
Love your review! I'm seeing it tomorrow night at 9pm. Can't wait! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 18/12/2015 01:20:16 AM 715 Views
Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. ironclad - 18/12/2015 08:50:49 AM 1208 Views
Re: Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. DomA - 20/12/2015 12:46:52 AM 1047 Views
Re: Pretty much agree. I also give 9/10 despite of noticing some flaws. ironclad - 20/12/2015 10:28:47 AM 1189 Views
Some (relatively spoiler free) thoughts Cannoli - 18/12/2015 12:27:22 PM 1255 Views
I pretty much agree with most of that. ironclad - 18/12/2015 01:05:16 PM 1175 Views
Agreed, Driver did a great job..... Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2015 05:46:44 AM 1029 Views
Replies and spoilers Sidious - 18/12/2015 03:04:37 PM 1116 Views
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Re: Replies and spoilers DomA - 19/12/2015 05:30:13 PM 1036 Views
Re: Replies and spoilers Sidious - 20/12/2015 09:51:22 AM 1190 Views
Re: Replies and spoilers DomA - 21/12/2015 06:31:54 PM 1331 Views
The books... fionwe1987 - 21/12/2015 09:05:28 PM 1102 Views
Re: The books... DomA - 22/12/2015 03:12:52 AM 1032 Views
In general agreement ** potential Spoilers ** gban007 - 19/12/2015 06:06:23 AM 994 Views
There are books? Cannoli - 19/12/2015 11:19:07 AM 1059 Views
Re: There are books? DomA - 19/12/2015 05:41:45 PM 1098 Views
So Darth Plagieus might still be in? Sweet. Cannoli - 20/12/2015 04:44:21 AM 976 Views
Palpatine's master? DomA - 20/12/2015 02:25:45 PM 977 Views
I mean the novel of that name. Cannoli - 22/12/2015 09:47:16 PM 999 Views
Re: I mean the novel of that name. DomA - 22/12/2015 10:05:49 PM 1084 Views
Yeah, I think we're talking about the same one. Cannoli - 24/12/2015 12:05:57 AM 985 Views
Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens gban007 - 19/12/2015 06:07:16 PM 1078 Views
I don't think any of that had to be explained. random thoughts - 19/12/2015 12:16:07 PM 960 Views
I'm more or less in complete agreement (spoilers) DomA - 19/12/2015 08:22:21 PM 1077 Views
Some thoughts about the Force... Cannoli - 20/12/2015 06:04:43 AM 1134 Views
Re: Some thoughts about the Force... DomA - 20/12/2015 08:06:40 PM 941 Views
Re: I'm more or less in complete agreement (spoilers) Sidious - 20/12/2015 10:07:36 AM 1055 Views
I agree whole heartedly with everything except two things... (spoilers) MightyYT - 08/01/2016 04:38:23 AM 1232 Views
Also, SPOILER thoughts. Cannoli - 18/12/2015 01:00:32 PM 1211 Views
Re: Also, SPOILER thoughts. ironclad - 18/12/2015 01:11:30 PM 1075 Views
You're making me reply to two posts Sidious - 18/12/2015 03:29:23 PM 1088 Views
The death (spoilers) DomA - 22/12/2015 10:30:05 PM 1041 Views
Re: You're making me reply to two posts Duke - 29/12/2015 05:24:39 AM 1084 Views
Re: Also, SPOILER thoughts. Duke - 29/12/2015 05:19:54 AM 1036 Views
I have tickets for tonight random thoughts - 18/12/2015 04:47:17 PM 1033 Views
Arbrams impressed me(spoiler free) random thoughts - 19/12/2015 05:17:42 AM 1157 Views
'Revenge of the Sith' (3rd prequel) was actually a decent movie Sports_Gambler - 18/12/2015 10:46:52 PM 1074 Views
They were all good. Internet geeks suck. Cannoli - 18/12/2015 11:38:36 PM 1016 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. Sports_Gambler - 19/12/2015 12:19:10 AM 1170 Views
Well gban007 - 19/12/2015 05:53:56 AM 987 Views
Re: They were all good. Internet geeks suck. Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:46:06 AM 1176 Views
people forget they were kids movies *NM* random thoughts - 19/12/2015 01:17:10 AM 696 Views
Yeah, people take the whole 'Star Wars' thing too seriously Sports_Gambler - 19/12/2015 02:59:29 AM 1076 Views
Re: 'Revenge of the Sith' (3rd prequel) was actually a decent movie Duke - 29/12/2015 06:05:05 AM 1039 Views
BTW, Daniel Craig is totally forgiven for Spectre. He was a Stormtrooper (spoilers for role) Cannoli - 18/12/2015 11:40:44 PM 972 Views
Yip that's true *NM* Sidious - 19/12/2015 07:46:59 AM 670 Views
And Simon Pegg was the alien who ran the trading post Rey always went to *NM* ironclad - 20/12/2015 02:30:59 PM 774 Views
I got the impression he was actually her boss or contractor Cannoli - 28/12/2015 12:48:48 PM 1123 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 29/12/2015 12:08:58 AM 1036 Views
Absolutely, yes *NM* ironclad - 29/12/2015 01:54:52 PM 727 Views
Just saw it! Holy shit, shit, shit, shit.....it was amazing. Anonymous2000 - 19/12/2015 05:38:44 AM 1038 Views
Loved it (Spoilers) gban007 - 19/12/2015 06:16:54 AM 1001 Views
Fantastic characters, great entertainment, no originality, no logic Sports_Gambler - 29/12/2015 03:33:43 AM 1037 Views
Your Mom has no originality or logic! *NM* Cannoli - 29/12/2015 11:39:41 AM 721 Views
JJ Abrams should be able to do better than my Mom Sports_Gambler - 30/12/2015 04:20:54 AM 961 Views
I gave it a B+ overall but I think the characters are its weak spot random thoughts - 29/12/2015 05:08:15 PM 890 Views
JJ Abrams' movies are character-driven, Lucas' movies are plot-driven Sports_Gambler - 30/12/2015 04:38:49 AM 949 Views
Lucas has created some of the most iconics chacters in movie history ? random thoughts - 31/12/2015 02:29:02 PM 945 Views
So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) Duke - 30/12/2015 10:11:01 AM 1037 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) DomA - 30/12/2015 07:10:56 PM 1351 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) Duke - 30/12/2015 09:24:08 PM 994 Views
Re: So, Rey (Possible Spoilers ahead) DomA - 31/12/2015 04:58:24 PM 947 Views
It was fun, and I look forward to the next ones, but can't say I was that wowed. Legolas - 30/12/2015 09:26:10 PM 990 Views
Re: It was fun, and I look forward to the next ones, but can't say I was that wowed. DomA - 31/12/2015 05:37:17 PM 899 Views
Is Luke still the hero? As loud as the fans may be, you don't get to these numbers with them alone. Legolas - 31/12/2015 07:06:05 PM 907 Views
Why is time for female lead and why does the lef think subtraction is the answer to inequality? random thoughts - 04/01/2016 01:37:37 PM 813 Views
Because the six other movies had zero female Jedis of any importance? Legolas - 04/01/2016 05:58:25 PM 1033 Views
Just another check the box movie, then Tom - 04/01/2016 06:02:41 PM 914 Views
Oh, come on. You're really going to complain just because they had a woman and a black guy? Legolas - 04/01/2016 11:48:52 PM 1013 Views
They are talking abou tmakin ght Gunslinger black random thoughts - 05/01/2016 02:05:36 PM 940 Views
Yeah, Star Wars is just part of the larger trend. It can't be viewed in a vacuum (pun intended). Tom - 05/01/2016 02:38:34 PM 911 Views
That's not really what I said, you'll note. Legolas - 05/01/2016 07:48:08 PM 1119 Views
I don't think it was Disney's business acumen. Tom - 06/01/2016 06:59:46 PM 1192 Views
Wow. That's... sad. Legolas - 06/01/2016 09:32:37 PM 1030 Views
Re: Wow. That's... sad. DomA - 08/01/2016 03:08:58 AM 1013 Views
I am noit sure how well that 7-12 girl demographic will work in merchandising random thoughts - 08/01/2016 06:30:47 PM 1011 Views
Your premise is entirely wrong. Tom - 12/01/2016 05:53:26 AM 954 Views
Actually, they do have a major character who is Latino. Legolas - 12/01/2016 07:15:31 PM 987 Views
The culture wars are just about blacks and feminists. Tom - 13/01/2016 02:31:20 AM 990 Views
All that Paul said DomA - 17/01/2016 05:13:59 PM 1635 Views
Doesn't Disney want to sell toys to white boys? They were the one who made this thing popular *NM* random thoughts - 08/01/2016 06:17:49 PM 642 Views
LOL Sidious - 05/01/2016 06:33:50 PM 945 Views
Funny that people use strwmen arguments to make themsleves feel smart random thoughts - 08/01/2016 04:22:22 PM 1031 Views
It's not a straw man Sidious - 08/01/2016 04:52:03 PM 996 Views
Yes the white guys are either legacy or bad guys. What if all the bad guys had been black? random thoughts - 08/01/2016 09:45:39 PM 857 Views
it was story of a father and son so it makes sense to male leads random thoughts - 04/01/2016 06:59:33 PM 872 Views
Male leads, sure, but it wasn't just the leads. Legolas - 04/01/2016 11:28:12 PM 999 Views
Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close random thoughts - 05/01/2016 05:55:51 PM 970 Views
I don't see how it makes sense to compare their roles, but Finn is certainly plenty strong. Legolas - 05/01/2016 07:38:05 PM 966 Views
Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story random thoughts - 06/01/2016 02:52:58 PM 971 Views
Re: Finn reacts and is pretty much drug through the story Sidious - 06/01/2016 05:50:08 PM 984 Views
I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi random thoughts - 07/01/2016 02:49:44 PM 960 Views
Re: I don't have an issue with a strong female jedi Sidious - 07/01/2016 03:26:34 PM 1005 Views
The reall issue it looks like Luke sucked as Jedi master random thoughts - 07/01/2016 07:14:31 PM 944 Views
Sorry, no. Legolas - 06/01/2016 06:56:09 PM 1020 Views
What a load of crap. fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 10:29:35 AM 916 Views
I only partially agree Sidious - 08/01/2016 03:27:10 PM 980 Views
Sorry if science isn't your thing but no what I said is true random thoughts - 09/01/2016 11:49:15 PM 1087 Views
Re: Was finn as strong as Leia? I would say not even close fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 10:01:16 AM 895 Views
Well said *NM* ironclad - 05/01/2016 12:01:25 PM 741 Views
Because it isn't "subtraction"... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2016 09:33:24 AM 944 Views
Of course it is random thoughts - 09/01/2016 10:19:53 PM 928 Views
Okay so about the big bad guy *spoilers* Sidious - 05/01/2016 06:27:37 PM 1014 Views
I may be alone on this, but... Legolas - 05/01/2016 08:07:26 PM 1006 Views
Re: I may be alone on this, but... Sidious - 05/01/2016 08:42:42 PM 930 Views
What speaks against is for me... ironclad - 05/01/2016 10:57:44 PM 1351 Views
Re: What speaks against is for me... Sidious - 06/01/2016 10:08:35 AM 1081 Views
It's all good stuff, like the first book in a good sci-fi/fantasy trilogy! Sports_Gambler - 07/01/2016 06:44:45 AM 1035 Views
Andy Serkis confirmed that Snoke is "just Snoke" and a new character. DomA - 08/01/2016 03:39:47 AM 1002 Views
Re: Andy Serkis confirmed that Snoke is "just Snoke" and a new character. Sidious - 08/01/2016 02:52:46 PM 1137 Views
Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. ironclad - 09/01/2016 01:14:09 PM 1643 Views
Re: Of course an actor would have to lie at this point. I'd expect him to. Sidious - 09/01/2016 06:58:07 PM 972 Views
I think it's pretty obvious... Duke - 17/01/2016 07:43:19 AM 1068 Views
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