They do string out the deaths, but things also change, especially in seasons 4-5
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 04:40:00 PM
I'm about halfway through season 3, maybe a bit more (yeah I know I said started, but Netflix makes starting and finishing a show happen very close together), and I really like it. The plot is good, the characters are good, things are bloody and exciting, and you can't ever be entirely sure what will happen next.
Heh, heh. Stuff like that is funny considering where you are in the show. BTW, if you still like it, considering you are in the midst one the period least liked by long-time fans of the show, that's rather promising. But there are two issues. One issue, which I consider the lesser of the two, is that there aren't really any characters on the show which I love. There is no Tyrion, no Dexter, or any other character that you can just cheer for episode after episode.
Not even Opie? ' /> I don't think you are supposed to though. This is like the Sopranos - it's about a gang of criminals, and there are no good guys. In season 4, IMO, they get an upgrade as far as the law goes, with some law enforcement people you can sympathize with, even if they are trying to take down SAMCRO, and who aren't compromised by local loyalties the way Deputy Chief Hale is. Everyone is either just okay, or pretty good at best, or someone absolutely loathsome that you just can't wait to see die. Which might actually be the crowning jewel of SOA, its ability to create characters that are absolutely despicable, and that you'll keep watching the show just for the chance to see them suffering or dead.
I am thinking you are thinking here of the delightful agent Stahl? Because that's the only one I can think of from the point in the show where you are, and all I have to say to that, is ROFLMAO. You haven't seen NOTHING when it comes to hateful & frustratingly powerful villains.Which brings me to the second issue. Most of those characters don't actually die. Everything is too complex and realistic, no one can kill anyone of any actual importance because of fear of reprisals, and so on.
Yeah, but I think that's the point. The evil bad guys of one season might be business partners the next. I don't want to give away specifics, but that happens with at least one group from the early seasons, while allies of those seasons become enemies in the current season. Nearly everyone gets away and survives to cause trouble another day, which is very frustrating because of the brilliant ways the show goes about making viewers hate those characters.
Zoebel is just about the only one I can think of in the early years who did that. There are the rival gangs, but gangs just don't get wiped out. They might take hits, but a new group of jerks fills the ranks eventually. I think Zoebel might be like The Greek in "The Wire," the one who represents the money, and the guy who does business with anyone and has no real ideology or code beyond his own profit. The guy like that always gets away on shows like this, that are trying to say something about power and institutions. Granted, SoA is hardly in The Wire's class when it comes to that, but there were a lot of nods to those sort of notions in the first season, in JT's manuscript, to give credence to the idea that this is the background ideology of the show. In someways, the show is like the club itself, in that it has stated for itself a higher ideology and purpose, but keeps getting distracted with being badass and sick and profitable.
Maybe I'm just a vengeful person, but for me the desire to see Jax and the other Sons kill those people is the primary reason for watching. Without it, the entire show becomes a letdown. The tension isn't relieved, the frustration builds up, and watching the show becomes a downright painful experience. Because you know the same mistakes will continue being made, people being left alive only to betray the Sons again and again, or cause some other type of problem further down the line. If Season 3 doesn't end with a bloodbath, I will be sorely disappointed.
You may be disappointed, but most people seem to think the way Season 3 played out was acceptable, and the Season 4 opener moves right where it left off into a pretty good resolution of some issues. There, just needed to vent and share my frustrations about the show. And I'm curious if anyone else felt the same way about it.
Not really, this show can sometimes be a little flagrant about contrived escapes, but a lot of times they pay it off with something better down the road. I am not sure which characters' lack of deaths you are so frustrated with (Clay, for instance, is almost too big a character and central to the mythology of the show to die before the end, so expecting justice for Donna would be too much, and as I said, the utility of some other characters gives a good reason for forgoing deaths), but aside from Zoebel getting away at the end of last season (although Weston, the actual racist & rapist did not), I think most of the non-killings are fairly well-served in the long term.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Started watching Sons of Anarchy, and I'm having a love-hate relationship
19/11/2012 10:05:32 PM
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They do string out the deaths, but things also change, especially in seasons 4-5
20/11/2012 04:40:00 PM
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Let me attempt to clarify
20/11/2012 07:29:02 PM
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There weren't any loveable characters in Oz, either, and that show was great *NM*
20/11/2012 07:04:49 PM
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