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Indeed.. DomA Send a noteboard - 03/03/2012 01:10:29 AM
Though Lucas managed to get enough on the screen that with a bit of personal input from older viewers, we pretty much got what it was all about.

Where I was getting to is that in TPM, Lucas portrayed Padmé has someone who was already fairly mature emotionally. That's to be expected of someone who's a competent diplomat, you can't do those duties without a great understanding of human beings and relationships. Leia was more "coherent".

But it's no big deal. This was almost "decorative" as far as Lucas was concerned. The way the relationship went, and who the characters were fit perfectly the mythology, but he knew the specifics of the relationship were quite beyond the comprehension of 10 y.o. and he didn't put much more than touches here and there (the same way he dealt with pretty much all the aspects of the movies that were out of reach for his target audience). It would have been more problematic if Lucas had decided to rely primarly on the relationship to explain Anakin's downfall, but he didn't make that mistake (and no doubt would have written that story differently ha dhe made that choice) and with the loss of the mother (which he made awful enough) he put in a traumatic experience that spoke directely to the kids, and from which they could follow the rest, including Anakin's later obsession with losing Padmé. People can say what they want of Lucas, but he is a rather good "author" for kids, and has always got a lot of flair for what will appeal to them (yup, even with Jar-Jar). A lot of the stuff he dealt with is also pretty "serious" (some pretty fundamental and heavy themes in SW) - he just had the genius to wrap it all up into something that worked great for kids.


I saw that relationship as someone who never got to be a kid, being drawn to a guy with a certain emotional immaturity. He's a Jedi, which in their world/galaxy conveys a certain level of respect and awe, as well as disproportionate capability and competence. The Force, after all, is not some One-Poweresque ability that can be readily misused or abused in ignorance or carelessness - it requires discipline and some kinds of emotional control, regardless of whether you are good or evil. Therefore, by all the rules and social perceptions, Anakin is mature and capable and her peer in ability and responsibility, and therefore somewhat acceptable, unlike the typical kid her age (assuming Luke in the beginning of aNH is typical of kids their age in Star Wars), but at the same time, he has this very innocent view of right and wrong that he even applies to politics, and an openness and lack of reserve, an irrepressibility, as it were, that is very much outside of her social experience. For someone who has had to keep it all buttoned down, and been exposed to the ins-and-outs of practical politics (a subject that Bismarck compared to sauage-making, in that you don't want to examine the process too closely), and realities of the limits of political idealism (such as she articulates in the first film), that kind of attitude is an interesting novelty, and combined with the isolated & idyllic circumstances of the courtship, followed closely by the life-or-death stresses of their subsequent Geonosian adventure, could very plausibly lead to exactly the sort of impulsive & romanticly secret marriage that occurred. This is a literal Romeo & Juliet story, not in the popular usage as an example of forbidden love between irreconcilable backgrounds, but in the tradition of Shakespear, who was writing about two stupid hormone-driven kids who dove into a disatrous relationship far too fast and caused widespread tragedy.

While Anakin & Padme might not have, in the course of the films, any sort of reasonable basis for an appropriate & genuine relationship, if one recalls that their marriage was NOT a healthy thing, but rather the means of his inevitable fall to the Dark Side, then, seeing it in the light of an impetuous and immature union, it is just fine. The problem is, there is not much portrayed of this story, and the pieces are largely left for the viewers to put together on their own. It should have been more explicitly portrayed as the doomed & foolish course of action it is in hindsight. Instead, whether through the fault of the acting, writing or directing, it looks like a superficial, plot-driven romance that you get in the typical Disney cartoon or fairy tale.
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What if Episode 1 was good? - 28/02/2012 05:11:40 AM 1055 Views
thank you. this is awesome. *NM* - 28/02/2012 05:47:36 AM 312 Views
He has some good points - 28/02/2012 11:32:49 AM 564 Views
Which were which? *NM* - 28/02/2012 02:46:40 PM 227 Views
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Re: Errrr you're not really addressing the video - 28/02/2012 04:22:16 PM 724 Views
This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 06:54:00 PM 523 Views
Re: This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 11:27:02 PM 592 Views
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Qui-Gon is the protagonist if you absolutely need one (though I don't know why you do) - 28/02/2012 10:59:23 PM 498 Views
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You don't really need character development either - 29/02/2012 07:56:09 PM 562 Views
Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 12:16:51 AM 509 Views
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Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 06:33:07 PM 454 Views
Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point - 28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM 546 Views
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Re: Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid - 28/02/2012 03:16:48 PM 553 Views
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Re: There is little to none canon that doesn't get signed by Lucas and his little helpers - 29/02/2012 12:48:54 AM 484 Views
I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex - 29/02/2012 06:42:37 PM 464 Views
Re: I mean, the Solo/Leia love story wasn't particularly complex - 02/03/2012 06:06:48 PM 594 Views
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Indeed.. - 03/03/2012 01:10:29 AM 499 Views
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Who here thinks they could make a better Episode I ? - 06/03/2012 06:43:58 PM 447 Views
Of course they'd all raise their hands - 07/03/2012 12:34:30 PM 488 Views
The point was that there's nothing special about this guy. - 08/03/2012 01:02:32 AM 528 Views

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