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All sensible points. nossy Send a noteboard - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I can see it kicking Casablanca's ass on quite a few points (cinematography, etc), but not on best picture.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1533 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 941 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 854 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 943 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 903 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 813 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 817 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 701 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 821 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1120 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 749 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 853 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 836 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 799 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 836 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 424 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 931 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 779 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 910 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 787 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 811 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1124 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 784 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 430 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 756 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 443 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 864 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 768 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 792 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 890 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 935 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 874 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 775 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 810 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 902 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 867 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 764 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 789 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 757 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 852 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 850 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 785 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 714 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 390 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 749 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 836 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 741 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 886 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 676 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 741 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 687 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 843 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 746 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 749 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 723 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 791 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 773 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 830 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 733 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 690 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 712 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 704 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 835 Views
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