Active Users:1099 Time:22/11/2024 07:18:19 PM
Re: I personally think that's a big reason why so many love this series. dacole Send a noteboard - 31/07/2011 07:11:48 PM
Four books in and I have no idea what the point is. Sometimes its intriguing but for the most part its annoying. Every other book series I've read has had a clear hero, villain and "quest" right from the beginning of book 1. Wheel of time has Rand needing to reseal the bore. Sword of truth had Richard stopping Darken Rahl, then Jagang. The belgariad had Garion trying to defeat Torak. The lord of the rings had Frodo trying to destroy the ring and evade Sauron. Harry pottery has Voldemort. A song of ice and fire has a bunch of morally grey characters that may die at any point of any novel. There is no main character, no main villain and no big goal or quest. So far.
/rant


There's no main quest here, there's no main hero. The thing about Martin, reading aSoIaF is a little like commanding a battle: you're always reconnoitering, trying to guess where the author will go next, what's a feint and where the action is really heading. I don't know when I have ever been as comprehensively and pleasurably outgeneraled as I am when I read Martin. He raises and raises the stakes, long past when any other writer would have walked away from the table, and just when you think he's done, he goes all in. There is, apparently, no piece he will not sacrifice, no character that you love so much that he will not orchestrate that character's doom.

The complexity of Martin's design ensures that we experience the struggle for Westeros from all sides at once. It's as if he's trying to show us that every fight is both triumph and tragedy, depending on where you see it from, and everybody is both hero and villain at the same time. Or maybe not even that.


Correct especially on the last part and something Cannoli with his hatred of moral greyness will eventually despise the books for (though I don't think he likes them nearly as much as the rest of us here do all ready)
Reply to message
Rewatching the GOT season - questions.....SPOILERS, obviously - 05/07/2011 07:41:33 PM 1151 Views
Re: Rewatching the GOT season - questions.....SPOILERS, obviously - 05/07/2011 08:38:45 PM 874 Views
Re: Rewatching the GOT season - questions.....SPOILERS, obviously - 18/07/2011 07:35:58 AM 758 Views
Re: Rewatching the GOT season - questions.....SPOILERS, obviously - 05/07/2011 10:00:13 PM 1006 Views
Thanks for all of the info.....so..... - 06/07/2011 05:35:47 AM 850 Views
No not really - 06/07/2011 02:29:36 PM 818 Views
No worries, I just ordered the 4-pack of current paperbacks..... - 06/07/2011 05:35:15 PM 837 Views
You are a big fan of tyrion right? *NM* - 07/07/2011 02:29:19 AM 322 Views
Tyrion/Peter D was great in season one, should definitely win an Emmy/GG - 07/07/2011 03:39:29 AM 845 Views
Then you really need to read Book 2 before the tv show comes out - 07/07/2011 03:59:34 AM 711 Views
Sounds like good advice, I will take it.....thanks! *NM* - 07/07/2011 05:43:26 PM 427 Views
** spoilers *** - 06/07/2011 04:37:27 PM 727 Views
I find that kind of annoying actually... - 06/07/2011 07:52:05 PM 760 Views
Refreshing, isn't it? *NM* - 06/07/2011 09:40:05 PM 392 Views
Part refreshing, part frustrating. *NM* - 06/07/2011 09:42:12 PM 359 Views
Re: Part refreshing, part frustrating. (SPOILERS) - 21/07/2011 04:20:58 AM 801 Views
There are no men like me. There's only me. *NM* - 07/07/2011 02:38:25 AM 377 Views
I personally think that's a big reason why so many love this series. - 11/07/2011 09:12:46 AM 794 Views
Hear hear!!! - 21/07/2011 04:21:47 AM 811 Views
Re: I personally think that's a big reason why so many love this series. - 31/07/2011 07:11:48 PM 761 Views
Well... - 18/07/2011 07:38:28 AM 742 Views
Interesting... - 21/07/2011 04:23:04 AM 752 Views

Reply to Message