Whatever Joffrey does is irrelevant (and for all the "I based it on the Wars of the Roses" talk, juvenile kings of that era were entirely pawns of whomever managed to get themselves appointed regent, usually mothers like Cersei).
Except Joffrey went against Cersei by having Ned executed.
The Lannisters CANNOT allow Ned to live knowing what he knows, both because they can't afford it to become common knowledge...
The rest of the series shows just how little this actually mattered.
and because Ned would've spent whatever life would have remained him seeking vengeance at any cost.
I doubt it. He was being sent to the Wall. And it's made quite clear that once you are at the Wall, you are at the Wall and done with the rest of Westeros - see Aemon Targaryen.
It was a good deal for all involved. Joffrey breaking it plunged a good portion of Westeros into civil war.
Yes but Ned could have raised an army in the North. Even if he took the black couldn't a King restore his Lordship? Jon Snow was offered the North after all by whats his name? Anyways there are ways he could have hurt the Lannisters if he took the Black.
interesting thread over on tv guide...cannoli will hate it.
- 13/06/2011 05:14:48 AM
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He was going to put aside his principles and say, 'I betrayed my country and my king and my people'.
- 13/06/2011 05:55:39 AM
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I am sorry but that is a bunch of BS
- 13/06/2011 12:01:18 PM
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*NM*
Even if I concede he was dead from the moment he was captured, that leaves HOW he died to determine.
- 13/06/2011 04:14:44 PM
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Ned is a northerner, and well aware of the good he could have done on the Wall.
- 13/06/2011 05:49:40 PM
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That was not the clincher though. What good he could do on the Wall is nothing next to a usurper
- 17/06/2011 08:47:06 PM
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Look up the concept of hostages sometime. Plus, Varys was playing Ned.
- 17/06/2011 09:15:02 PM
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So what should have Ned done, once he was in that cell? *NM*
- 18/06/2011 04:50:27 AM
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Stick to his guns and not agree to take the Black or recant his actions against Joffrey
- 04/07/2011 03:29:23 PM
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I'd pick family over honour.
- 13/06/2011 10:05:46 PM
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Re: I'd pick family over honour.
- 16/06/2011 07:21:33 AM
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Cersie is the one who says "love is poison" in the second book to Sansa.
- 15/06/2011 06:54:21 PM
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And some day, when your kid needed people to trust you, you'd be screwed.
- 17/06/2011 09:37:25 PM
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