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Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas Send a noteboard - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM
I have seen it mentioned in a few places and by a few posters that Robert's death was no an accident. Is this true? Was Tywin involved? Or was the plan just to keep Robert drunk and see what bad happens?

Also, just wondering, does Joffery ever find out or realize that Jaime is his father, not Robert?


Tywin was not involved. Cersei just made sure that the wine was more potent than Robert was used to.

We never get a Joffery POV, but I don't think so.
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Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1085 Views
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And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1184 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 877 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 874 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 883 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 946 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 886 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 844 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 701 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 808 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 748 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 384 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 432 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 788 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 359 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 397 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 912 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 734 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 741 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 796 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 760 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 761 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 772 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1023 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 839 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 794 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 722 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 948 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 897 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 799 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 741 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 755 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 840 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 694 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 704 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 919 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 671 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 789 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 800 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 736 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 819 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 753 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 706 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 731 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 769 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 721 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 387 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 740 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 906 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 667 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 734 Views
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