There were some historical inaccuracies, but I did not think of them until I got home.
You would speak differently on the radio in those days. Regular speech was a no-no. I do not know the extent to which the royals actually did change their way of speaking, but it did not bother me in the film.
Speeches are important. I thought they made a good point of Hitler's ability to rouse a crowd with good rhetoric.
The speeches during the war were particularly important. I know from Norwegian history that the King speaking from exile in Norway was a massive thing and it is regularly cited as one of those things that kept the resistance going in the population in general.
Yes, I have had a lot of fun with that as well. I don't get when the Anglican church stopped making allowances or kings. But I seem to remember that being an issue with Charles and Camilla as well. I may be wrong.
Yes, they did tweak Churchill rather much.
Which ones did you spot from Rome?
It was not a bad film but some things were a bit grating. They kept making a big deal about how the titular character had trouble talking and the whole point of the film was about his efforts to overcome that problem. The point was also made that his brother, though inferior in every other way, was a superior speaker - but when either of them gives a speech, he sounds like a cartoon animal! Conversationally, George (who is called Albert) and Edward (who is called David) sound perfectly normal but when making speeches (presumably in order to sound like the historical figures) talk in high-pitched squeaky voices.
You would speak differently on the radio in those days. Regular speech was a no-no. I do not know the extent to which the royals actually did change their way of speaking, but it did not bother me in the film.
Also, it was just a speech. They acted like the whole country was hanging on it but it was nothing special, and certainly not remembered in history as any sort of major inspirational point in the war effort. They even show someone handing him the speech with the implication that it was written for him by a staff, and all he had to do was read the damn thing! All in all this makes his accomplishment nothing more than a personal triumph, and in the context of the greatest human tragedy and disaster in the history of the world, the personal sense of accomplishment and saitisfaction of one of the richest people, living the most comfortable lifestyle of anyone in the allied nations, is something of a "meh" hook. Considering the fates millions of Poles were shortly to be consigned to thanks to both the encouragement and betrayal of "his Majesty's" government, the fact that this overbred asshole who makes his friend keep behind him while out for a walk together is able to feel good about himself and overcome his childhood traumas is a matter of supreme indifference.
Speeches are important. I thought they made a good point of Hitler's ability to rouse a crowd with good rhetoric.
The speeches during the war were particularly important. I know from Norwegian history that the King speaking from exile in Norway was a massive thing and it is regularly cited as one of those things that kept the resistance going in the population in general.
Another amusing aspect of the movie is the abdication controversy concerning George/Albert's brother, and the continued citation of religion as the impediment to his marriage to a divorcee. Ironically, the Church of England, a religion founded on divorce, "does not recognize divorce" and Mrs Simpson, the woman Edward is in love with, is therefore not eligible to be married to a king, who is head of that church. It is said at one point that divorced people cannot appear at the court once ruled over by Henry VIII. The hypocrisy is absolutely astounding, especially given the subsequent marital records of the hero's grandsons (why is everyone making such a big deal about the imminent marriage of yet another man from this family? History suggests no good end to it).
Yes, I have had a lot of fun with that as well. I don't get when the Anglican church stopped making allowances or kings. But I seem to remember that being an issue with Charles and Camilla as well. I may be wrong.
And speaking of that crisis, because of an apparently immutable, if unwritten, rule of drama that anything positive in the UK in the first half of the 20th century must reflect well on Winston Churchill. Churchill is shown disapproving of Edward/David's affair with Simpson and supportive of the York branch of the family, despite his actually having backed Edward and opposed the abdication even to a politically imprudent degree. The movie, obeying the aforementioned rule, places Churchill on the eventual winning side. While it is possible that he might have favored Albert/George privately and merely stuck by Edward publically out of the same romanticism and national/traditionalist chauvanism that spurred so many of his actions, what little I have heard of that episode suggests otherwise. Also, it would be kind of odd for him to oppose the union of a English scion of a distinguished lineage with an American skank, as he himself was spawned from one such pairing.
Yes, they did tweak Churchill rather much.
A similar point of oddity is a discussion between Churchill and the soon-to-be-king over what name he will reign under. I was not aware that English kings chose their names like the pope or something (is that a perk of being the Anglican equivalent? ), but the rationale given by Churchill is that "Albert" is too Germanic. Instead, they decide that he will call himself George, despite the first two kings of that name speaking German as their mother tongue. At least Albert brings no reminders of other unfortunate English monarchs, such as the insanity of the third George which is actually cited in the film, with the last one complaining that his stutter will make people compare them!
I also was pleasantly surprised by the appearance of actors from "Rome" in the film, but each of the two I saw had a single scene. Harry Potter veterans contributed three significant roles, by contrast. Though now I can say that Peter Pettigrew is not the most despicable or incompetant role played by Timothy Spall.
Which ones did you spot from Rome?
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I saw "The King's Speech" and ended up thinking of all sort of other stuff...
05/02/2011 03:03:50 AM
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Re the sound of their voices in speeches: that's how they sounded in speeches.
05/02/2011 10:53:24 AM
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Isn't Chucky Deuce is known as one of the better ones? QE2 didn't seem the least bit embarrassed btw *NM*
05/02/2011 10:27:44 PM
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Uh. No, not at all. Heh. And what did our dear monarch have to be embarrassed about? *NM*
06/02/2011 09:15:57 AM
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Being named after the first one? *NM*
07/02/2011 12:42:16 PM
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Ah. I see you don't understand her prominence in English history then. *NM*
07/02/2011 08:07:18 PM
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Look at his signature; there's a hint as to why he'd have preferred a papist on the throne.
08/02/2011 08:13:46 AM
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Oh yes, I know. *NM*
08/02/2011 08:44:43 AM
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I confess to enjoying the use of the word "papist" immensely.
08/02/2011 07:06:41 PM
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Re: I confess to enjoying the use of the word "papist" immensely.
08/02/2011 07:35:24 PM
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He's being illogical then
08/02/2011 02:23:47 PM
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I liked it.
07/02/2011 01:12:25 PM
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The first speech coach & the theater company spokesman who rejected Rush for Richard 3
15/02/2011 01:06:14 AM
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Re: The first speech coach & the theater company spokesman who rejected Rush for Richard 3
15/02/2011 08:13:15 AM
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