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In some places it's exactly that Brian Send a noteboard - 23/01/2011 07:35:32 AM
If a speed limit sign is obscured by a bush and I'm unable to see it that makes me ignorant of the law. You can't get a traffic ticket for that. I've seen it successfully fought.

I think a better example would be an obscure traffic law rather than the speed limit. For example if you turn over an "imaginary island" you can be ticketed. There's nothing to prevent you from driving over one, and many people wouldn't have the foggiest as to what an imaginary island is, but in spite of this you can be ticketed for driving over one.

I got a ticket for doing that once, and tried the I don't know what that is, so how could I be expected to follow a law whose existence I had absolutely no knowledge of? The judge gave the exact same response Stephen did: "Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense."


Is it one of those spots at an intersection outlined with thick white stripes and has white stripes pointed diagonally through it, that's what's coming to my mind.

In others it's simply a spot where the yellow lines separate and there is a section of road between them. Nothing painted through it or anything, and it can actually look a lot like a simple turn lane. The one you're describing seems like common sense that you couldn't drive on, the other sort.....maybe it is common knowledge, maybe not, I certainly didn't know you couldn't drive on them at the time.
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