As I said, maybe I am the exception not the rule, I still think most people keep tabs on the game, if I am wrong, then I'm wrong, but your trying to flip this into an accusation, can you honestly say you think it would be weird for me to keep tabs on games posthumously and assume others do too? Because if not, then there is nothing weird about the accusation I leveled. You are correct, you were rather busy in that period of time, but as I said, it's not my job to point such things out, it's yours. If it's not weird for you not to keep track of major events in a game, why would you expect me to remember you were busy? You could have simply said 'Isaac, you may pay attention to games when dead, I do not' but you turned it into a major accusation instead. It's everything you accused me of and then some.
Oh, I would not doubt you if you said you keep paying attention to the games after you die (though you rarely die with much of the game left to witness ), but that's just the point. You are claiming that I lied because my statement constitutes a breach of your character. To be fair, I did follow the games attentively back when they were smaller.
And besides, I said I did not pay attention to the game after I died. Would adding 'but you may' to that really have changed the affirmation? You still have to take my word on it.
I was a DF, and let's remember the context there, we were talking about how some comments you made set off my concerns you might have seen through to the 'no night 1 NK' option. That was day 3, this is day 1, entirely different mechanics. Further, you know I like to keep SKs alive, they are more likely to kill townies, but I got bit by that once with DK, and Gher has a habit of trying to kill me, lynching him instead of you made more sense, and I couldn't have got one on you. I wanted to lynch Hobo too but that wasn't going to happen, I'm still amazed we got Bergioyn. Day 1 is not the same as late game.
There was no legitimate excuse to vote for you. God knows I tried to delay and shift, but it wasn't doable. In the end, I assumed Gher was the SK and you were town, and that it made more sense to lynch him and NK you. I wanted Gher dead too, your analogy doesn't apply. He had a NK, it made more sense to take him out in the daytime. I can't kill two people at once FT, he was the better option.
Here you admit that you did want to see me dead last game, and yet Darth Katie's voting record (http://www.readandfindout.com/rpg/messageboard/60388/) shows that you did not vote for me.
There was no legitimate excuse to vote for you. God knows I tried to delay and shift, but it wasn't doable. In the end, I assumed Gher was the SK and you were town, and that it made more sense to lynch him and NK you. I wanted Gher dead too, your analogy doesn't apply. He had a NK, it made more sense to take him out in the daytime. I can't kill two people at once FT, he was the better option.
Oh of course. My point was simply that you could hesitate to vote for me depending on the circumstances, which invalidates your 'If I was eager to lynch you I would vote for you' WiFoM. Clearly I can only know your circumstances in hindsight, once the game is over. Certainly, if you are a Darkfriend you would know I am not, and might be unwilling to invest yourself too directly and too strongly in my demise. Or maybe not. According to your prior argument, you're the one who has to provide the reasons, not I?
The first rule of being a ninja is "do no harm". Unless you intend to do harm, then do lots of harm.
~Master Splinter
Victorious in Bergioyn's legendary 'Reverse Mafia'. *MySmiley*
~Master Splinter
Victorious in Bergioyn's legendary 'Reverse Mafia'. *MySmiley*
Rafo Mafia 4: Day 1 has ended.
27/01/2010 05:53:50 PM
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This is a confirmation of the prompt receival of said role message.
27/01/2010 08:30:45 PM
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You made it up
27/01/2010 09:01:31 PM
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Hmm ...
27/01/2010 09:21:59 PM
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Ha.
28/01/2010 01:28:27 AM
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It sounds like a real word.
28/01/2010 01:55:58 AM
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You know, I'm still irritated we haven't been able to come up with a good R1 system
28/01/2010 07:08:22 AM
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Well, lacking anything else...
28/01/2010 11:58:25 PM
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I haven't the faintest idea what they mean.
29/01/2010 01:30:19 AM
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Not really
29/01/2010 02:27:05 AM
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Let's try something
29/01/2010 02:47:30 AM
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alrighty then
29/01/2010 03:29:51 AM
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That's sufficient, thanks
29/01/2010 03:48:11 AM
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Yea, my message has all that.
29/01/2010 03:56:52 AM
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Probably
29/01/2010 04:10:42 AM
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Re: Probably
29/01/2010 07:30:48 AM
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True- most DFs would wait a bit, and be like the 4th or 5th to jump in
29/01/2010 08:19:43 AM
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I've got MPD
29/01/2010 04:22:00 AM
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Surprise, surprise: I do too.
29/01/2010 06:21:04 AM
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Remember when we killed the Serial Killer on Day 1? That was fun. Let's do that! *NM*
29/01/2010 08:20:24 AM
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I have MPD and number under 14. *NM*
29/01/2010 06:18:59 AM
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I like to think of the first kill as a sacrifice to the Gods of Mafia
30/01/2010 04:14:17 AM
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Re: I like to think of the first kill as a sacrifice to the Gods of Mafia
30/01/2010 04:27:53 AM
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High priests cannot be sacrificed!
30/01/2010 04:53:38 PM
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Some cultures, they make the best sacrifices
30/01/2010 05:47:46 PM
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I want to roleclaim.
30/01/2010 07:08:11 PM
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That is, well, surprising
30/01/2010 08:28:04 PM
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Yeah, but I think it's best to do it now.
30/01/2010 09:38:49 PM
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Hm. I wonder if we're all robots inside of a Mafia simulator. *NM*
30/01/2010 11:20:25 PM
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Well, I'm back...
31/01/2010 01:43:17 AM
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Why do fencers keep appearing without me knowing of it?!?
31/01/2010 02:48:22 AM
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Oh, and I had my first real tournament today...
31/01/2010 03:23:45 AM
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Eh. Just don't listen to Issac too much.
31/01/2010 04:47:53 AM
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I wanna say F-T, just cause I hate Millers.
31/01/2010 05:10:07 AM
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But do you think a DF would try something that DFs already did in the game we just played?
31/01/2010 05:53:24 AM
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And on a third hand...
31/01/2010 07:00:22 AM
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So... back to neutral. *NM*
31/01/2010 03:27:58 PM
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You don't find that statement dubious?
31/01/2010 04:14:47 PM
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I knew Yunalseca was a Darkfriend...
31/01/2010 07:17:33 PM
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Everyone! Deep breaths...
31/01/2010 11:50:39 PM
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That's a pretty big thing to forget though.
01/02/2010 01:39:44 AM
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Who said anything about forgetting?
01/02/2010 02:53:49 AM
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It brings you protection from guilty Cop results. *NM*
01/02/2010 03:01:22 AM
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No...
01/02/2010 06:25:07 AM
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Man... I hate defending people I'm not sure about
01/02/2010 07:14:13 AM
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I agree with beet here.
01/02/2010 07:42:12 AM
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Offer alternatives then
01/02/2010 11:18:47 AM
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I didn't mean we shouldn't reference strategies from earlier games
01/02/2010 02:23:26 PM
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I agree, more or less
31/01/2010 05:55:11 AM
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Re: I agree, more or less
31/01/2010 03:34:10 PM
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Tracker is a role that sees who his target performs a Night Action on...
31/01/2010 03:49:24 PM
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Re: I agree, more or less
31/01/2010 04:19:33 PM
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Eh. I think this is going to end like Hopper.
31/01/2010 11:58:52 PM
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What I don't like is the fact that Millers are often not told they're Millers.
01/02/2010 12:08:14 AM
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Well, he could still be Mafia and have appropriate flavor.
01/02/2010 01:46:58 AM
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We can't just lynch Isaac on the off chance that he might be a DF.
31/01/2010 05:42:08 AM
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Alright, from my reading,
31/01/2010 10:53:52 PM
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RE: I didn't mean we shouldn't reference strategies from earlier games (horizontal scroll avoidance)
01/02/2010 02:46:35 PM
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I really just meant that I don't think F-T's claim of not knowing about Yuna's claim is
01/02/2010 06:16:11 PM
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You still haven't explained what the purpose of such a lie would be.
01/02/2010 07:15:35 PM
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I think the rationale was this:
01/02/2010 07:38:41 PM
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Beg Pardon?
01/02/2010 08:07:20 PM
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It's true, Isaac likes to be a leader, rather than a doer. *NM*
01/02/2010 11:17:02 PM
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Coward. *NM*
01/02/2010 11:17:21 PM
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Er... what just happened, here? *NM*
02/02/2010 12:55:51 AM
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I made a pointless post, decided to turn it into a semi-sarcastic insult.
02/02/2010 01:27:48 AM
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There's not really anything to explain
01/02/2010 09:20:57 PM
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Re: There's not really anything to explain
01/02/2010 10:03:57 PM
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Re: There's not really anything to explain
01/02/2010 10:33:49 PM
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Re: There's not really anything to explain
01/02/2010 11:11:37 PM
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Maybe you should ask one of the others to explain this to me
02/02/2010 12:01:48 AM
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Re: Maybe you should ask one of the others to explain this to me
02/02/2010 01:15:41 AM
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Different situation
02/02/2010 01:39:15 AM
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Re: Different situation
02/02/2010 04:48:30 AM
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Right, so: A New Target
01/02/2010 08:03:28 PM
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Re: Right, so: A New Target
01/02/2010 08:20:06 PM
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Re: Right, so: A New Target *NM*
01/02/2010 08:48:25 PM
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Message get eaten? *NM*
01/02/2010 09:21:34 PM
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Apparantly... It was just a minor thing, lemme see if I remember...
02/02/2010 12:44:28 AM
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Right, so: Defending Myself
01/02/2010 11:30:38 PM
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Hmm...more accusations beyond beet's
02/02/2010 06:02:51 AM
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Fair question, but it's actually pretty straightforward.
02/02/2010 04:41:18 PM
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Your logic isn't terrible...
02/02/2010 04:54:54 PM
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Re: Your logic isn't terrible...
02/02/2010 05:42:43 PM
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Re: The random thing
02/02/2010 04:59:42 PM
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Nah, I anticipated this would make me the prime lynch candidate.
02/02/2010 08:48:19 PM
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Re: Nah, I anticipated this would make me the prime lynch candidate.
02/02/2010 09:23:43 PM
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Okay, so I've been reading, but I kept meaning to post on my comp. Sorry.
02/02/2010 06:21:12 AM
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I never tried to stop any discussion
02/02/2010 12:46:54 PM
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Like I said, I don't find it very suspicious, but it was just something I had seen.
02/02/2010 11:14:53 PM
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Kronin is at least as suspicious as Issac, or F-T
02/02/2010 05:09:56 PM
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That's pretty bold claim of intention.
02/02/2010 05:18:40 PM
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Vote: Fanatic-Templar
03/02/2010 04:36:52 AM
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Re: Vote: Fanatic-Templar
03/02/2010 03:13:57 PM
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Speaking of time...
03/02/2010 03:28:42 PM
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Only if it starts to grind to a halt. *NM*
03/02/2010 04:50:32 PM
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Re: Only if it starts to grind to a halt.
03/02/2010 06:52:54 PM
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Er... IS it active? I feel like we've kinda exhausted everything
03/02/2010 11:19:29 PM
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Hahaha. well, it was!
04/02/2010 12:59:13 AM
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"No lynch" is a bad idea. At the very least, let's lynch someone random *NM*
04/02/2010 04:07:00 AM
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Everybody knows my perspective on no lynches...or at least I suspect they do. *NM*
04/02/2010 04:09:17 AM
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So you'd rather lynch someone random over F-T? Why?
04/02/2010 04:35:40 AM
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Because I think F-T is almost definitely not a DF
04/02/2010 06:58:15 AM
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Re: Because I think F-T is almost definitely not a DF
04/02/2010 07:07:37 AM
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Well, yeah- a chance of getting a DF is better than no chance at all
04/02/2010 07:04:27 PM
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But there is a chance F-T is a DF.
04/02/2010 07:34:37 PM
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Fair enough...
04/02/2010 07:49:26 PM
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I agree with D_K actually
04/02/2010 08:32:09 PM
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You think F-T has less than a 29% (4/14) chance to be a DF?
04/02/2010 08:55:34 PM
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If a given random person is 30%, then yes, I think F-T is 29% or less
04/02/2010 11:20:26 PM
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I regret that I have only one life to give to the Light...
04/02/2010 11:00:56 PM
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You know, you're still at L-3.
04/02/2010 11:14:40 PM
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L-2, as it were.
04/02/2010 11:41:10 PM
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Just had to make me incorrect?
04/02/2010 11:55:02 PM
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I couldn't resist. *NM*
05/02/2010 01:07:59 AM
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05/02/2010 01:15:51 AM
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Yeah, but I wasn't sure if I'd still be alive next time I came around .
05/02/2010 03:12:19 AM
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05/02/2010 12:20:04 AM
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I don't anyone will target you with a night action tonight, frankly.
05/02/2010 03:14:26 AM
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