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Re: Short and sweet rebuttals Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM

View original postA Night Kill is a night kill. Sure, it's possible it was a vigilante thing, but even vigilantes are only barely on the pro-town side of things.

That's not the point at all. The point is that with four victory objectives, she was almost assuredly part of multiple factions, and you have no idea which one has the night kill.


View original postWhen you're in a crowd of unknowns, you need to take some chances. This crowd is a sea of blank faces, except one of those faces has fangs, and is dripping blood. That's more than enough for a lynch in a game of Mafia.

We're in a crowd of unknowns, but we do know something. And that one thing is that the only known murder was almost assuredly not committed by a vampire. That would seem to make vampires the least likely suspects in the game thus far.


View original postEntirely possible- which means we have a VAMPIRE ATTACKING US. How do you not see that as a bad thing?

Because I am concerned with scum factions and night kills, not your mild discomfort. There is no evidence for the vampires being related to either of those.


View original postWhether it works or not is immaterial. I said that the existence of the garlic soap means that there is the possibility of being attacked by undead. You just agreed that it was likely I was attacked by the undead last night.

Or it means that Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler believes that this game is filled with gullible saps willing to pay hard-earned Morale points for completely unproven merchandise that caters to their own fears and biases.

Incidentally, all I said was that it was possible that you were targeted by a vampire last Night. I do not know that you were, and in the context of a mafia game I would certainly not say that you were attacked. You will recall that in the previous game I was referencing, that "attacking vampire" was a townie and critical to the town's eventual victory.


View original postHere's what it boils down to. We agree that there is a strong possibility of the existence of undead that can attack other players. We know of a player who is undead. Why should we not lynch her? What better candidate is there?

Or would you like us to no-lynch, again?


I'm still fine with lynching ranagrande. His flip-flopping actually strongly suggests anti-town play from his actions, not dubious lore extrapolations.

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Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 23/12/2013 02:05:56 PM 2136 Views
I was kind of hoping we had a Watch faction that would take out a Hippo tonight. - 23/12/2013 03:22:57 PM 1448 Views
I targeted a lot of people and don't know against whom I was successful or not. *NM* - 23/12/2013 11:47:29 PM 939 Views
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *NM* - 24/12/2013 07:46:16 AM 870 Views
"a lot of people" and "don't know" the results - 24/12/2013 08:03:12 AM 1406 Views
You oughtn't be so surprised. - 24/12/2013 07:22:47 PM 1363 Views
Seems pretty consistent to me - 24/12/2013 07:40:33 PM 1517 Views
...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 09:51:02 PM 1284 Views
Re: ...it does? His last hypocop was "Did nothing so I could save Morale" - 24/12/2013 10:15:41 PM 1303 Views
Re: Seems pretty consistent to me - 25/12/2013 04:09:14 AM 1370 Views
I'd like to know if you targetted me, as well. - 25/12/2013 02:17:25 PM 1482 Views
Did something happen to you? - 27/12/2013 03:45:20 AM 1379 Views
I believe so - 28/12/2013 12:58:24 AM 1395 Views
Well? Did you target me? I will make a statement immediately upon your answer. - 29/12/2013 03:52:17 AM 1239 Views
Why would I answer? - 29/12/2013 03:59:24 AM 1293 Views
Fine, then. Vote: Yunalesca - 30/12/2013 03:59:03 PM 1330 Views
Hmm - 01/01/2014 07:01:52 PM 1297 Views
I know people are reluctant to lynch "nice" vampires - 02/01/2014 02:44:47 PM 1432 Views
On the other hand... - 02/01/2014 06:15:48 PM 1363 Views
...you mean the one Night Kill victim we've had? - 02/01/2014 06:56:38 PM 1308 Views
So soap trumps night kill? - 04/01/2014 07:08:11 AM 1287 Views
Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 07:47:39 AM 1452 Views
Re: Pretty sure I presented three reasons why I felt we should lynch Yuna - 04/01/2014 06:58:57 PM 1463 Views
Short and sweet rebuttals - 04/01/2014 07:22:41 PM 1474 Views
My initial reaction... - 04/01/2014 10:47:11 PM 1326 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 05/01/2014 03:37:18 AM 1362 Views
I say that a player likely attacking other players is a higher risk - 05/01/2014 02:37:40 PM 1271 Views
Not by your definition of "attacking", no. - 05/01/2014 06:08:49 PM 1374 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:24:43 AM 1452 Views
Re: Short and sweet rebuttals - 06/01/2014 05:51:20 AM 1395 Views
True, but there is no indication of a different group, is there? *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:37:15 PM 851 Views
Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 24/12/2013 07:58:55 AM 1375 Views
Fanatic-Templar - Not Guilty *NM* - 25/12/2013 10:18:51 AM 896 Views
Re: Hmm. Apparentely my last post was not posted - 25/12/2013 11:11:17 AM 1287 Views
At first I was like "Waah?", but then I noticed this... - 23/12/2013 09:08:16 PM 1451 Views
Hypocop Table - 25/12/2013 02:21:42 PM 1320 Views
Praziquantel - Not Guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 04:58:14 AM 783 Views
FT not guilty *NM* - 27/12/2013 05:06:39 PM 924 Views
Re: Hypocop Table - 28/12/2013 04:12:15 PM 1464 Views
Bergioyn - Not Guilty - 02/01/2014 04:23:24 PM 1325 Views
Re: Mafia 33: Discworld, Day 4 - A New Soap - 30/12/2013 10:14:14 AM 1435 Views
Happy New Year! - 02/01/2014 02:37:51 PM 1354 Views
You too, I'll do my best. *NM* - 04/01/2014 07:35:03 PM 793 Views
Alright so hopefully this will get us to start talking/thinking again - 02/01/2014 09:45:23 PM 1670 Views
I'm guessing it's because of the RPS system - 03/01/2014 03:01:06 AM 1353 Views
What is your opinion of my vote towards Yuna? - 03/01/2014 03:04:16 AM 1331 Views
Yuna? Do you have any response to my accusation? *NM* - 07/01/2014 12:08:20 AM 771 Views
So, the promised roleclaim (most of it, at least). - 07/01/2014 03:48:16 AM 1441 Views
OK, so NOW do you concede that Stephen's NK was from being a vampire? - 07/01/2014 04:29:41 AM 1335 Views
? - 07/01/2014 07:38:55 AM 1262 Views
Hell, even if this weren't my own information... - 07/01/2014 08:35:33 AM 1405 Views
And furthermore... - 07/01/2014 08:41:11 AM 1368 Views
He had to get a NK from SOMEWHERE. And if you're dedicated to eliminating NKs... - 07/01/2014 08:54:38 PM 1460 Views
No. You do know what an individual role is, don't you? - 07/01/2014 10:06:16 PM 1400 Views
...what? - 07/01/2014 11:35:33 PM 1312 Views
This is a flawed argument in two entirely separate and divergent ways. - 08/01/2014 01:49:27 AM 1304 Views
Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 05:19:34 AM 1407 Views
Re: Any "role" with a Night Kill would be incongruous - 08/01/2014 07:25:04 AM 1489 Views
I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 02:17:25 PM 1379 Views
Re: I'm just going off of what you're telling us about the Watch - 08/01/2014 06:10:43 PM 1434 Views
How do you know we even have an undead faction? - 08/01/2014 04:28:16 PM 1195 Views
OK, this makes sense. - 07/01/2014 10:07:44 AM 1430 Views
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that. - 07/01/2014 08:26:15 PM 1312 Views
Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 06:39:57 AM 1422 Views
Yeah, that was actually the first thing I asked about during the Night. - 08/01/2014 07:33:10 AM 1350 Views
Were you definitely blocked by the Watch? - 08/01/2014 02:45:17 PM 1473 Views
Re: Oh. Euhm. Wow - 08/01/2014 05:43:02 PM 1608 Views
Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 05:40:41 PM 1674 Views
Re: Good work, F-T - 08/01/2014 06:09:56 PM 1461 Views
So... you want to lynch me, because I want to lynch scum? - 08/01/2014 08:50:26 PM 1318 Views
This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 03:25:02 PM 1374 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 05:33:39 PM 1381 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 09/01/2014 06:42:44 PM 1483 Views
Re: This only counts if your Victory conditions align with the Watch's - 10/01/2014 04:38:55 AM 1565 Views
Whaaaaaat. We're not nation-building, here. - 10/01/2014 06:04:16 AM 1425 Views
And why shouldn't they? - 10/01/2014 04:25:21 AM 1618 Views
What if Stephen wasn't the target? - 09/01/2014 03:11:38 PM 1377 Views
VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 04:29:34 AM 1440 Views
I'll be looking forward to Sunday then. - 11/01/2014 05:21:57 AM 1267 Views
Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 05:41:38 AM 1740 Views
Re: Sounds good to me too. - 11/01/2014 10:14:16 AM 1274 Views
Hooray, I can kill people just by wishing! *NM* - 12/01/2014 03:03:49 AM 914 Views
I am certain you will not use that power for evil... *NM* - 12/01/2014 05:09:11 AM 968 Views
RBIRL - 11/01/2014 07:32:49 AM 1466 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:19:41 AM 1438 Views
Re: VNTL/modkill notes - policy - 11/01/2014 10:25:16 AM 1375 Views
Modkill - Yunalesca - 12/01/2014 09:04:40 PM 1756 Views
So... - 13/01/2014 12:57:58 AM 1818 Views
Re: So... - 13/01/2014 07:54:26 AM 1459 Views
EBWOP. - 13/01/2014 08:00:13 AM 1356 Views
Dwarves and possibly a vampire. - 13/01/2014 07:48:09 PM 1370 Views
They're identifiably foreigners. - 13/01/2014 10:05:08 PM 1817 Views
Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 08:55:57 AM 1418 Views
Re: Not strictly true - 14/01/2014 09:07:41 AM 1481 Views
I trust Isaac enough to think it was not a mistake. - 15/01/2014 02:44:40 AM 1237 Views
This is a reminder that someone stole my necklace and I'm still annoyed about that *NM* - 14/01/2014 06:30:39 PM 1003 Views
I'm still annoyed at having my wizard hat stolen too. - 15/01/2014 06:43:41 AM 1334 Views
Agreed, there are enough things left open. - 15/01/2014 03:24:29 PM 1436 Views
This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 03:25:21 PM 1480 Views
Re: This reminds me: did anybody else get anything stolen? - 15/01/2014 07:59:27 PM 1353 Views
I agree, those are the most likely candidates. - 16/01/2014 02:47:05 PM 1767 Views
Problem with that is that the known characters in this game are all recurrent. - 16/01/2014 09:05:38 PM 1459 Views
WIZARD. They're called WIZARDS. GOD *NM* - 17/01/2014 01:59:42 PM 1019 Views
Witches also exist in Discworld. *NM* - 17/01/2014 02:10:24 PM 793 Views
Another point of order- no idea who left me feeling drained last night - 16/01/2014 03:04:54 PM 1708 Views
Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 19/01/2014 09:12:56 PM 1340 Views
I really see no reason to believe everybody else loses if the Watch wins. - 19/01/2014 10:07:52 PM 1664 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 02:03:11 PM 1468 Views
I never fully got over the cancelation of Buffy and Angel *NM* - 20/01/2014 04:00:03 PM 1043 Views
Re: Even though we have some discussion, we're still not going forward. - 20/01/2014 10:51:15 PM 1396 Views
So... how are things with everybody? Doin good? *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:18:07 PM 1060 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:38:20 PM 940 Views
Day Deadline Monday Night, the 27th *NM* - 23/01/2014 03:44:34 PM 944 Views
Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 23/01/2014 07:14:04 PM 779 Views
I'm not disagreeing, but what's your reasoning? *NM* - 24/01/2014 03:39:51 PM 953 Views
What's been discussed already. - 24/01/2014 11:29:45 PM 1344 Views
Well, you know my reasoning - 24/01/2014 10:11:56 PM 1231 Views
And this is what I was waiting for. - 24/01/2014 10:48:16 PM 1759 Views
Vote: Praziquantel - 25/01/2014 09:30:54 PM 1303 Views
And here you are again. - 26/01/2014 06:52:21 AM 1664 Views
This is enought for me. Vote:ranagrande *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:38:42 AM 800 Views
I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 07:18:45 PM 1376 Views
Re: I am a little surprised by your strong defense of Praz - 26/01/2014 10:30:31 PM 1730 Views
Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 26/01/2014 11:37:08 PM 1343 Views
Wait let me try that again... - 26/01/2014 11:38:48 PM 1331 Views
Re: Then maybe I misinterpreted this: - 27/01/2014 02:49:59 AM 1627 Views
Okay fair enough. Unvote. *NM* - 27/01/2014 03:18:34 AM 845 Views
Hm, I think it might be too late to unvote - 27/01/2014 04:09:24 AM 1677 Views
He's right, I didn't check the time stamps - 27/01/2014 07:46:46 PM 1749 Views
Can we get an extension? - 26/01/2014 06:56:08 AM 1716 Views
Seconded. *NM* - 26/01/2014 11:39:05 AM 782 Views
granted - I'll leave it a bit non-specific for now *NM* - 26/01/2014 04:09:00 PM 927 Views
Thank you *NM* - 26/01/2014 07:05:45 PM 793 Views
VNTL is 4 at the moment - 26/01/2014 07:21:53 PM 1833 Views
Vote record Update 1 - 26/01/2014 07:35:43 PM 1764 Views
FT has also voted for ranagrande. *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:00:37 PM 844 Views
Thanks *NM* - 26/01/2014 08:02:13 PM 1005 Views
I demand blood! Also he's coming off a bit odd. Vote: Praziquantel *NM* - 27/01/2014 02:37:38 AM 969 Views
Praziquantel has been lynched - 27/01/2014 07:49:45 PM 1730 Views
Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 01:07:26 AM 1876 Views
Re: Twilight has begun - 28/01/2014 02:06:39 AM 1820 Views

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