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I think you're right. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 09/08/2013 11:47:32 PM

Tracker is an ideal fake claim, for the reasons you've mentioned. It's validity is further compromised by the fact that he took so long to claim, and that when he did so he said "I have nothing against roleclaiming." That has to be a lie in and of itself. If he had instead used a disclaimer like "I really hate to do this now, but if you insist..." I could understand delaying. I've been known to drag out RCs myself. But if he really had nothing against it, beet should have made his claim much earlier. It makes me suspect that the extra time was spent thinking up the perfect claim.

Combined with all the rest of your arguments (although I wouldn't put nearly as much stock as you do in beet mixing up bussing and bandwagoning) it's pretty solid for a Day 1 lynch. Most importantly, I don't see us building a case against anyone else.

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(here) *NM* - 29/07/2013 11:03:26 PM 853 Views
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Re: Yes. No. No. - 04/08/2013 11:19:03 AM 1457 Views
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Dangit, I hate when I double post. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:53:29 PM 879 Views
Yes, No No *NM* - 05/08/2013 03:28:03 AM 850 Views
Sorry I didn't have anything new to add... *NM* - 05/08/2013 03:29:28 AM 816 Views
Yes, No, No. *NM* - 06/08/2013 12:46:10 AM 812 Views
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EBWOP - 02/08/2013 03:33:23 PM 1407 Views
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Re: Vote: Isaac - 03/08/2013 07:32:48 AM 1446 Views
The "... and people die" part is probably accurate though *NM* - 03/08/2013 12:32:40 PM 839 Views
Correlation does not equal causation . *NM* - 03/08/2013 05:42:30 PM 862 Views
Precisely *NM* - 04/08/2013 11:22:52 AM 841 Views
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Baaaack~ - 03/08/2013 11:26:57 PM 1472 Views
Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 07:03:07 PM 1505 Views
Well - 05/08/2013 07:25:22 PM 1428 Views
That is correct - 05/08/2013 07:35:24 PM 1449 Views
Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 09:42:23 PM 1500 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:09:48 PM 1514 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:20:02 PM 1547 Views
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Yup *NM* - 06/08/2013 01:00:31 PM 865 Views
would be a very awkward abbreviation - 07/08/2013 10:05:17 AM 1415 Views
Re: Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 08:26:01 PM 1590 Views
Agreed. Random lynches seem like a last resort to me. - 05/08/2013 08:55:59 PM 1509 Views
Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:52:25 AM 1552 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 06:59:26 AM 1511 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 10:01:18 AM 1505 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:56:47 PM 1596 Views
I didn't have anything either. *NM* - 06/08/2013 01:02:46 PM 867 Views
No, I'm sorry, I don't - 06/08/2013 02:33:58 PM 1553 Views
No appearance was described in my role message. *NM* - 06/08/2013 08:45:51 PM 856 Views
Nope. *NM* - 07/08/2013 07:23:00 PM 856 Views
No, nothing on appearance *NM* - 07/08/2013 09:02:11 PM 856 Views
I think we may need to contemplate some semi-random options - 06/08/2013 07:55:25 AM 1488 Views
List of remarks by the 'accused', plus some remarks on them - 06/08/2013 08:51:15 AM 1666 Views
explanation - 06/08/2013 09:05:55 AM 1545 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:47:35 AM 1553 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:59:45 AM 1574 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 01:28:49 PM 1508 Views
I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 06/08/2013 10:00:22 AM 1522 Views
Re: I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 07/08/2013 07:48:34 PM 1455 Views
Your questions - 06/08/2013 02:59:16 PM 1557 Views
I apparently answered your questions backwards - 06/08/2013 03:06:06 PM 1493 Views
I would look at it a bit differently, even if the outcome doesn't change that much - 06/08/2013 03:55:12 PM 1547 Views
Well, I'm impressed - 06/08/2013 04:11:31 PM 1471 Views
I thank you for the compliment. - 06/08/2013 09:51:54 PM 1517 Views
Re: I thank you for the compliment. - 07/08/2013 01:53:25 AM 1485 Views
Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 11:08:21 AM 1492 Views
Re: Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 01:01:55 PM 1509 Views
Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 09:46:26 PM 1549 Views
I think you just killed Beetnemesis *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:56:16 PM 841 Views
Better him than me . *NM* - 07/08/2013 11:16:29 PM 840 Views
Re: Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 11:32:12 PM 1468 Views
nice analysis - 07/08/2013 10:25:20 AM 1416 Views
Like I said before, Tables=Death - 06/08/2013 07:20:07 PM 1502 Views
Re: Like I said before, Tables=Death - 06/08/2013 08:22:47 PM 1436 Views
Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 03:37:36 PM 1426 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:11:04 PM 1473 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:43:12 PM 1504 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 05:34:04 PM 1495 Views
He really is... - 07/08/2013 04:55:59 PM 1475 Views
Re: He really is... - 07/08/2013 08:36:44 PM 1522 Views
Hm, that's not quite what I was thinking when I said that - 08/08/2013 08:49:11 PM 1400 Views
BAMF? - 07/08/2013 06:31:59 PM 1447 Views
It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:38:24 PM 1503 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:42:30 PM 1556 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:45:49 PM 1522 Views
When it comes to Marvel, it's Spidey and Deadpool all the way! X-Men. Pffft. - 07/08/2013 10:38:41 PM 1436 Views
Dr Doom was always my favorite hero in Marvel, but Deadpool is pretty cool *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:52:39 PM 809 Views
Dr Doom has cool costume, but other than that I don't know much about him. - 07/08/2013 11:37:09 PM 1436 Views
He's Marvel's Lex Luthor, only much cooler - 07/08/2013 11:48:00 PM 1414 Views
I'd actually say he's a bit more like Marvel's Superman than Marvel's Lex Luthor. - 07/08/2013 11:54:14 PM 1543 Views
I'm not a Marvel fan, but Doom is amazing. - 07/08/2013 11:52:09 PM 1436 Views
OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 04:49:33 PM 1494 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 05:44:09 PM 1537 Views
Well, you obviously know something, so out with it - 07/08/2013 06:33:04 PM 1471 Views
With that in mind... sounds like I hit too close to home, and you got sensitive - 08/08/2013 03:10:50 AM 1498 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis, Are you accusing me of being scum for pointing out your post had no substance? - 08/08/2013 03:39:25 AM 1567 Views
Re: - 08/08/2013 06:30:26 AM 1454 Views
Granted, as you yourself pointed out: attack is the best defense - 08/08/2013 08:17:31 AM 1398 Views
How often do we even have SKs? *NM* - 08/08/2013 09:39:58 AM 916 Views
This pushes it over the edge for me too. - 08/08/2013 01:13:21 PM 1456 Views
Hah. You got prickly pretty quickly. - 08/08/2013 07:39:24 PM 1467 Views
Prickly? I'm not touchy about it just suspiscious - 08/08/2013 08:01:39 PM 1432 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 06:38:45 PM 1458 Views
My feeling is that a "normal" game is pretty easy to balance - 08/08/2013 03:08:09 AM 1438 Views
re - 07/08/2013 08:36:15 PM 1464 Views
Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 04:31:26 PM 1484 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 05:44:54 PM 1458 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 07:51:09 PM 1506 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:02:45 PM 1467 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:05:52 PM 1601 Views
The thing we want to avoid is MASS roleclaim - 09/08/2013 08:30:32 AM 1404 Views
Okay, almost totally off topic but... - 07/08/2013 11:40:54 PM 1394 Views
The problem with that - 08/08/2013 08:09:56 AM 1466 Views
Re: The problem with that - 08/08/2013 05:02:56 PM 1451 Views
Reminds me of the Cairhien game a bit. - 08/08/2013 06:14:17 PM 1424 Views
That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 07:48:42 PM 1453 Views
I haaaated the Cairhien game - 08/08/2013 08:16:57 PM 1475 Views
Re: That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 09:42:25 PM 1433 Views
Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 05:51:23 PM 1427 Views
My take: - 08/08/2013 08:00:13 PM 1605 Views
Did you just admit to being a scummer? - 08/08/2013 08:04:21 PM 1494 Views
Hah, remember when I mentioned grasping at straws? - 08/08/2013 09:31:35 PM 1436 Views
We have always used the term that way, always, that and only that back to game 2 - 08/08/2013 09:44:20 PM 1492 Views
Holy crap, 4 years ago. - 09/08/2013 02:09:09 AM 1349 Views
That's when you asked and were told by the Moderator, it has come up since then many times - 09/08/2013 04:10:28 AM 1428 Views
I can't be the only person laughing at you right now - 09/08/2013 05:44:03 PM 1438 Views
I doubt anyone is laughing including yourself - 09/08/2013 06:08:41 PM 1440 Views
No, he's correct. - 08/08/2013 09:53:43 PM 1555 Views
Re: My take: - 08/08/2013 08:12:46 PM 1539 Views
To be a student of Isaac is a subtle thing - 08/08/2013 09:30:02 PM 1391 Views
sure - 08/08/2013 08:44:06 PM 1450 Views
Hmm, my thoughts, - 08/08/2013 08:56:27 PM 1529 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 10:30:22 PM 1474 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 11:18:56 PM 1529 Views
"Post count" usually acts as a tiebreaker - 09/08/2013 02:12:28 AM 1489 Views
I disagree - 09/08/2013 09:00:33 AM 1411 Views
Re: I disagree - 09/08/2013 11:25:29 AM 1399 Views
Several people have called for a roleclaim from beet - 09/08/2013 09:06:28 AM 1438 Views
I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 09:16:51 AM 1441 Views
Re: I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 03:18:38 PM 1503 Views
No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 03:49:21 PM 1403 Views
Re: No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 04:05:31 PM 1450 Views
Ah. Well that definitely explains it. *NM* - 09/08/2013 04:49:55 PM 830 Views
That's awesome. *NM* - 09/08/2013 09:21:59 PM 818 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 09/08/2013 11:48:13 AM 1399 Views
I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 05:47:23 PM 1463 Views
Re: I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 07:10:44 PM 1330 Views
OK, so the smiley was a typo - 09/08/2013 07:26:58 PM 1467 Views
I do, but - 09/08/2013 03:39:28 PM 1440 Views
RBIRL - 09/08/2013 05:50:21 AM 1452 Views
The case on Beetnemesis - 09/08/2013 05:05:32 PM 1571 Views
Ah good, time for a point-by-point rebuttal - 09/08/2013 06:04:11 PM 1471 Views
EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 06:14:25 PM 1534 Views
Actually... - 09/08/2013 06:38:26 PM 1490 Views
I can't see any difference with Isaac's "aggressiveness". *NM* - 09/08/2013 07:31:28 PM 899 Views
Re: EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 07:55:19 PM 1548 Views
Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:04:40 PM 1516 Views
Shrug, I have nothing against roleclaiming. Roleclaim: Tracker - 09/08/2013 07:33:40 PM 1462 Views
Correct me if wrong... - 09/08/2013 08:39:58 PM 1488 Views
Exactly! - 09/08/2013 11:06:25 PM 1502 Views
Wow, I'm gone for 24 hours, - 11/08/2013 12:02:38 AM 1468 Views
No, you just did everything you could to avoid it, like claiming almost no one had asked... - 09/08/2013 08:42:10 PM 1558 Views
I think you're right. - 09/08/2013 11:47:32 PM 1692 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:49:12 PM 1458 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 08:04:42 PM 1533 Views
too much mud - 09/08/2013 09:50:35 PM 1551 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis - 11/08/2013 10:32:51 AM 1636 Views
@ Mod, Vote Check - 11/08/2013 04:46:16 PM 1470 Views
That's a valid vote, I had missed it. Twilight pending. - 11/08/2013 05:36:13 PM 1433 Views
Actually, so did I. Did I hammer? - 11/08/2013 05:55:14 PM 1412 Views
Yes. *NM* - 11/08/2013 05:59:47 PM 726 Views
beetnemesis has been lynched. - 11/08/2013 05:52:43 PM 1513 Views

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