wow..just a few hours offline and I get 30+ new messages on my screen! Imagine the shock Dannymac gets when he returns 
On topic, despite all the discussion and accusations I'm not much wiser. FT's defending attack did not give much new information for me. I already knew (and said) the post counts of Isaac and Artsapat are a disputable way to determine scum-like or 'less pro-town' behaviour. The fact that the game evolved so quickly and he did not follow it for about one and a half day was the best he said in the entire post. The rest just didn't cut it for me.
As for Beetnemesis, I feel he hasn't done very much wrong. He hypothesized a little, but those more or less random ideas weren't very shocking. The specific number of 12 players is still something to ponder upon, which is what he basicly did. I agree with Isaac that his last posts and accusation of Isaac were rather clumsy, but that doesn't make him scum yet to me.
Beet's vote on Isaac is something I still have to think on a bit.
For now I'll withdraw my vote on FT, but I am not ready to cast another vote.
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