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Re: My take: Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 08/08/2013 08:12:46 PM

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Seems pretty obvious that I'm in the beginning stages of being bussed. Isaac was incredibly eager to grasp at the first straw he could to implicate someone. You'll note that I had absolutely no suspicion of him, and that my comments were pretty mild- and yet as soon as I mentioned the possibility of multiple groups, or multiple serial killers, he wanted to kill me off as quickly as possible.

(For reasons why I suspect there might be multiple factions, check my post, but it boils down to that Bergioyn wanted us to have specifically 12 people)

So, simply because of that I suspect Isaac.

Moreover, if you check out how he's acted this game, it's definitely been in an "Isaac-scum" way.

Veterans can back me up on this, but Isaac (whether scum or town) characteristically:

  • Never lies if he can at all help it.
  • Use a large amount of charts/analysis

However, when Isaac is scum, a third item is added:

  • Use said charts and analysis to direct attention away from him and his compatriots, or to use only seemingly helpful charts and analysis.

That third item is key. Look at his first survey: it was about names, and whether anyone had any significant names. Here's the thing- he already had a name. He KNEW that his name wasn't significant, and didn't indicate anything.

Since he knew that his name didn't have any meaning behind it, it's extremely unlikely that anyone else would have a name like "Mustache McBadGuy" or "Doc Torperson"


Obviously this is all pretty circumstantial, but I feel pretty confident.

Isaac tried to seem helpful with a useless survey, then tried to lynch the first available target (i.e. me) when I made a guess at a possible role.

Vote: Isaac


I really don't see it. It wasn't a useless an entirely survey and yeah, it was based off of stuff he knew about his own character. It was info gathering and that is usually what happens on day 1. General questions are asked about role messages and people discuss what they can. I don't see how what Isaac did here differed any more from other games, scum or town.

Go Hokies!

CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
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If I remember correctly he had some dastatdly plot to catch the scum. - 01/08/2013 04:32:51 PM 1582 Views
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No, his plan was actually pretty good. - 06/08/2013 01:00:31 AM 1709 Views
How is that a good plan? - 06/08/2013 06:37:24 AM 1745 Views
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Rules are made to be broken. *NM* - 30/07/2013 06:51:38 PM 944 Views
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I vaguely remember the Marvel game, but not any specifics... *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:55:24 PM 921 Views
I do... - 05/08/2013 04:25:10 AM 1540 Views
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(here) *NM* - 29/07/2013 11:03:26 PM 903 Views
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Not too bad that you waited with the game, Berg - 01/08/2013 10:35:51 AM 1526 Views
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Okay, getting moving (Table) - 01/08/2013 11:45:30 PM 1669 Views
Yes, No, No. *NM* - 02/08/2013 02:32:52 AM 900 Views
Yes, No, No - 02/08/2013 08:54:12 AM 1579 Views
Re: Yes, No, No - 02/08/2013 09:50:24 AM 1497 Views
Yeah, my name's a real one too, just not logically related to anything in the game. *NM* - 02/08/2013 07:17:42 PM 899 Views
Same here. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:54:10 PM 864 Views
Yes, No, No *NM* - 02/08/2013 01:03:24 PM 870 Views
Yes, no, no *NM* - 02/08/2013 08:26:52 PM 818 Views
yes, no, no *NM* - 03/08/2013 01:10:00 AM 908 Views
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Yes. No. No. - 04/08/2013 09:02:49 AM 1444 Views
Re: Yes. No. No. - 04/08/2013 11:19:03 AM 1518 Views
Yes, No, No *NM* - 03/08/2013 11:06:41 PM 906 Views
Yes, no, no. Also, I'm back. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:52:11 PM 776 Views
Yes, no, no. Also, I'm back. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:52:47 PM 863 Views
Dangit, I hate when I double post. *NM* - 04/08/2013 09:53:29 PM 921 Views
Yes, No No *NM* - 05/08/2013 03:28:03 AM 916 Views
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Yes, No, No. *NM* - 06/08/2013 12:46:10 AM 851 Views
I might as well Unvote before I forget - 02/08/2013 03:32:43 PM 1493 Views
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Re: Vote: Isaac - 03/08/2013 07:32:48 AM 1515 Views
The "... and people die" part is probably accurate though *NM* - 03/08/2013 12:32:40 PM 862 Views
Correlation does not equal causation . *NM* - 03/08/2013 05:42:30 PM 897 Views
Precisely *NM* - 04/08/2013 11:22:52 AM 879 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 05/08/2013 08:31:03 PM 1580 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 06/08/2013 06:40:24 AM 1523 Views
Baaaack~ - 03/08/2013 11:26:57 PM 1533 Views
Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 07:03:07 PM 1568 Views
Well - 05/08/2013 07:25:22 PM 1492 Views
That is correct - 05/08/2013 07:35:24 PM 1525 Views
Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 09:42:23 PM 1573 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:09:48 PM 1611 Views
Re: Oh yeah, you're right - 05/08/2013 10:20:02 PM 1605 Views
I posted I was back.... NLRBIRL *NM* - 05/08/2013 10:25:58 PM 831 Views
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would be a very awkward abbreviation - 07/08/2013 10:05:17 AM 1479 Views
Re: Although interesting, the questions don't seem to be adding much to the info - 05/08/2013 08:26:01 PM 1663 Views
Agreed. Random lynches seem like a last resort to me. - 05/08/2013 08:55:59 PM 1575 Views
Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:52:25 AM 1634 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 06:59:26 AM 1570 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 10:01:18 AM 1575 Views
Re: Now that you mention it, appearance might indeed be useful. - 06/08/2013 12:56:47 PM 1658 Views
I didn't have anything either. *NM* - 06/08/2013 01:02:46 PM 903 Views
No, I'm sorry, I don't - 06/08/2013 02:33:58 PM 1619 Views
No appearance was described in my role message. *NM* - 06/08/2013 08:45:51 PM 885 Views
Nope. *NM* - 07/08/2013 07:23:00 PM 899 Views
No, nothing on appearance *NM* - 07/08/2013 09:02:11 PM 890 Views
I think we may need to contemplate some semi-random options - 06/08/2013 07:55:25 AM 1551 Views
List of remarks by the 'accused', plus some remarks on them - 06/08/2013 08:51:15 AM 1727 Views
explanation - 06/08/2013 09:05:55 AM 1603 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:47:35 AM 1614 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 09:59:45 AM 1643 Views
Re: explanation - 06/08/2013 01:28:49 PM 1578 Views
I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 06/08/2013 10:00:22 AM 1603 Views
Re: I'm just surprised I'm not on the list. I was always a low poster... - 07/08/2013 07:48:34 PM 1520 Views
Your questions - 06/08/2013 02:59:16 PM 1633 Views
I apparently answered your questions backwards - 06/08/2013 03:06:06 PM 1587 Views
I would look at it a bit differently, even if the outcome doesn't change that much - 06/08/2013 03:55:12 PM 1638 Views
Well, I'm impressed - 06/08/2013 04:11:31 PM 1544 Views
I thank you for the compliment. - 06/08/2013 09:51:54 PM 1593 Views
Re: I thank you for the compliment. - 07/08/2013 01:53:25 AM 1543 Views
Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 11:08:21 AM 1549 Views
Re: Those are fair points - 07/08/2013 01:01:55 PM 1563 Views
Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 09:46:26 PM 1627 Views
I think you just killed Beetnemesis *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:56:16 PM 883 Views
Better him than me . *NM* - 07/08/2013 11:16:29 PM 878 Views
Re: Oh dear, this is unfortunate. - 07/08/2013 11:32:12 PM 1519 Views
nice analysis - 07/08/2013 10:25:20 AM 1481 Views
Like I said before, Tables=Death - 06/08/2013 07:20:07 PM 1577 Views
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Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 03:37:36 PM 1495 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:11:04 PM 1533 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 04:43:12 PM 1575 Views
Re: Beware of BAMF! (Out of town till Saturday) - 07/08/2013 05:34:04 PM 1567 Views
He really is... - 07/08/2013 04:55:59 PM 1532 Views
Re: He really is... - 07/08/2013 08:36:44 PM 1577 Views
Hm, that's not quite what I was thinking when I said that - 08/08/2013 08:49:11 PM 1452 Views
BAMF? - 07/08/2013 06:31:59 PM 1506 Views
It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:38:24 PM 1595 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:42:30 PM 1625 Views
Re: It's the onomatopoeia nightcrawler makes when he teleports - 07/08/2013 06:45:49 PM 1583 Views
When it comes to Marvel, it's Spidey and Deadpool all the way! X-Men. Pffft. - 07/08/2013 10:38:41 PM 1508 Views
Dr Doom was always my favorite hero in Marvel, but Deadpool is pretty cool *NM* - 07/08/2013 10:52:39 PM 843 Views
Dr Doom has cool costume, but other than that I don't know much about him. - 07/08/2013 11:37:09 PM 1503 Views
He's Marvel's Lex Luthor, only much cooler - 07/08/2013 11:48:00 PM 1487 Views
I'd actually say he's a bit more like Marvel's Superman than Marvel's Lex Luthor. - 07/08/2013 11:54:14 PM 1599 Views
I'm not a Marvel fan, but Doom is amazing. - 07/08/2013 11:52:09 PM 1504 Views
OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 04:49:33 PM 1589 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 05:44:09 PM 1601 Views
Well, you obviously know something, so out with it - 07/08/2013 06:33:04 PM 1538 Views
With that in mind... sounds like I hit too close to home, and you got sensitive - 08/08/2013 03:10:50 AM 1570 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis, Are you accusing me of being scum for pointing out your post had no substance? - 08/08/2013 03:39:25 AM 1622 Views
Re: - 08/08/2013 06:30:26 AM 1526 Views
Granted, as you yourself pointed out: attack is the best defense - 08/08/2013 08:17:31 AM 1464 Views
How often do we even have SKs? *NM* - 08/08/2013 09:39:58 AM 958 Views
This pushes it over the edge for me too. - 08/08/2013 01:13:21 PM 1514 Views
Hah. You got prickly pretty quickly. - 08/08/2013 07:39:24 PM 1525 Views
Prickly? I'm not touchy about it just suspiscious - 08/08/2013 08:01:39 PM 1504 Views
Re: OK, here I am! Some layout analysis: - 07/08/2013 06:38:45 PM 1534 Views
My feeling is that a "normal" game is pretty easy to balance - 08/08/2013 03:08:09 AM 1522 Views
re - 07/08/2013 08:36:15 PM 1526 Views
Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 04:31:26 PM 1541 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 05:44:54 PM 1530 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 07:51:09 PM 1577 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:02:45 PM 1537 Views
Re: Isn't it at the very least Roleclaim time? - 08/08/2013 08:05:52 PM 1663 Views
The thing we want to avoid is MASS roleclaim - 09/08/2013 08:30:32 AM 1460 Views
Okay, almost totally off topic but... - 07/08/2013 11:40:54 PM 1464 Views
The problem with that - 08/08/2013 08:09:56 AM 1544 Views
Re: The problem with that - 08/08/2013 05:02:56 PM 1529 Views
Reminds me of the Cairhien game a bit. - 08/08/2013 06:14:17 PM 1503 Views
That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 07:48:42 PM 1529 Views
I haaaated the Cairhien game - 08/08/2013 08:16:57 PM 1543 Views
Re: That remains one of my favorites - 08/08/2013 09:42:25 PM 1511 Views
Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 05:51:23 PM 1493 Views
My take: - 08/08/2013 08:00:13 PM 1674 Views
Did you just admit to being a scummer? - 08/08/2013 08:04:21 PM 1555 Views
Hah, remember when I mentioned grasping at straws? - 08/08/2013 09:31:35 PM 1489 Views
We have always used the term that way, always, that and only that back to game 2 - 08/08/2013 09:44:20 PM 1559 Views
Holy crap, 4 years ago. - 09/08/2013 02:09:09 AM 1409 Views
That's when you asked and were told by the Moderator, it has come up since then many times - 09/08/2013 04:10:28 AM 1482 Views
I can't be the only person laughing at you right now - 09/08/2013 05:44:03 PM 1499 Views
I doubt anyone is laughing including yourself - 09/08/2013 06:08:41 PM 1492 Views
No, he's correct. - 08/08/2013 09:53:43 PM 1611 Views
Re: My take: - 08/08/2013 08:12:46 PM 1601 Views
To be a student of Isaac is a subtle thing - 08/08/2013 09:30:02 PM 1459 Views
sure - 08/08/2013 08:44:06 PM 1509 Views
Hmm, my thoughts, - 08/08/2013 08:56:27 PM 1597 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 10:30:22 PM 1550 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 08/08/2013 11:18:56 PM 1590 Views
"Post count" usually acts as a tiebreaker - 09/08/2013 02:12:28 AM 1551 Views
I disagree - 09/08/2013 09:00:33 AM 1472 Views
Re: I disagree - 09/08/2013 11:25:29 AM 1476 Views
Several people have called for a roleclaim from beet - 09/08/2013 09:06:28 AM 1503 Views
I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 09:16:51 AM 1510 Views
Re: I feel like I'm missing something really obvious here... - 09/08/2013 03:18:38 PM 1571 Views
No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 03:49:21 PM 1472 Views
Re: No, I meant entrails. - 09/08/2013 04:05:31 PM 1510 Views
Ah. Well that definitely explains it. *NM* - 09/08/2013 04:49:55 PM 866 Views
That's awesome. *NM* - 09/08/2013 09:21:59 PM 851 Views
Re: Does anyone else have any opinions? - 09/08/2013 11:48:13 AM 1452 Views
I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 05:47:23 PM 1532 Views
Re: I'll point out that SKs were one of a few options I hypothesized - 09/08/2013 07:10:44 PM 1394 Views
OK, so the smiley was a typo - 09/08/2013 07:26:58 PM 1535 Views
I do, but - 09/08/2013 03:39:28 PM 1504 Views
RBIRL - 09/08/2013 05:50:21 AM 1523 Views
The case on Beetnemesis - 09/08/2013 05:05:32 PM 1631 Views
Ah good, time for a point-by-point rebuttal - 09/08/2013 06:04:11 PM 1526 Views
EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 06:14:25 PM 1600 Views
Actually... - 09/08/2013 06:38:26 PM 1559 Views
I can't see any difference with Isaac's "aggressiveness". *NM* - 09/08/2013 07:31:28 PM 941 Views
Re: EBWOP: A final point - 09/08/2013 07:55:19 PM 1620 Views
Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:04:40 PM 1604 Views
Shrug, I have nothing against roleclaiming. Roleclaim: Tracker - 09/08/2013 07:33:40 PM 1527 Views
Correct me if wrong... - 09/08/2013 08:39:58 PM 1564 Views
Exactly! - 09/08/2013 11:06:25 PM 1563 Views
Wow, I'm gone for 24 hours, - 11/08/2013 12:02:38 AM 1523 Views
No, you just did everything you could to avoid it, like claiming almost no one had asked... - 09/08/2013 08:42:10 PM 1638 Views
I think you're right. - 09/08/2013 11:47:32 PM 1765 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 07:49:12 PM 1520 Views
Re: Yet you still refuse to roleclaim, are you suicidal? - 09/08/2013 08:04:42 PM 1609 Views
too much mud - 09/08/2013 09:50:35 PM 1613 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis - 11/08/2013 10:32:51 AM 1703 Views
@ Mod, Vote Check - 11/08/2013 04:46:16 PM 1537 Views
That's a valid vote, I had missed it. Twilight pending. - 11/08/2013 05:36:13 PM 1518 Views
Actually, so did I. Did I hammer? - 11/08/2013 05:55:14 PM 1475 Views
Yes. *NM* - 11/08/2013 05:59:47 PM 756 Views
beetnemesis has been lynched. - 11/08/2013 05:52:43 PM 1582 Views

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