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such being the case we can go through those who have voted for him or supported it Isaac Send a noteboard - 08/04/2013 10:40:11 PM

View original postAnyway, at this point I'm pretty sure if we had another real cop, they would have claimed by now. So either Taiga really is the cop, or we've got no cop and Taiga just lucked into it.

my issue here is that i find the claim decidedly at odds with canon, and i don't mean in an an extreme canon bordering on fanon kind of way. yes, i'm troubled by the lack of counter-claim but i'm also worried we might not be getting a counter-claim at this point because the real do feels the thing is a done enough deal they needn't stick their neck out. i'm not willing to let this one drop without being sure every person has sworn off being the cop or otherwise in possession of strong evidence weakening the claim.

if we get that, then i think we need to drop the lynch though i will still think taiga is probably lying, roled townies do that sometimes. if we do though we need to go through the other seven of us and decide who probably isn't scum from that list. e.g. if taiga isn't scum then you probably aren't either, and we reduce our presumed 2 in 8 odds down to 2 in 6, i think i'm not a realistic option either. we can't really look at who voted and who didn't, that never helps, nor who spoke for or against taiga, but we can look to see who else might have spoken in taiga's defense when if he's town and them scum it wouldn't benefit them, then pick out of that pool. Even 2 in 6 isn't too bad of odds for a random lynch though, not on day 1.

but i still want formal elimination of counter-claims first, because taiga's been hanging so close to lynch that a cop or similar might have decided that claiming wasn't necessary, in which case staying quiet would make sense.

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Day 1 – “And so… it begins” – Kosh Naranek - 11/03/2013 09:51:19 AM 1819 Views
List of players - 11/03/2013 09:52:43 AM 841 Views
let's get to assigning questions! - 11/03/2013 11:42:05 AM 832 Views
So did anything happen to anyone during 'Night 0'? *NM* - 11/03/2013 05:35:51 PM 443 Views
I assume somerhing did happen as our mod asked for night actions... - 13/03/2013 10:12:58 AM 805 Views
Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 02:59:49 PM 699 Views
Re: Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 06:46:01 PM 772 Views
I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 09:10:40 PM 766 Views
Re: I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 10:46:33 PM 763 Views
Night 0 relevant info - 02/04/2013 11:46:05 AM 734 Views
So if I understand this correctly... - 13/03/2013 09:39:32 PM 761 Views
Hm. I was assuming this was going to be a Hieshyn nightkill - 11/03/2013 05:45:22 PM 631 Views
Modkill warning - 13/03/2013 03:56:04 PM 767 Views
Vote: Hieshyn - 14/03/2013 07:57:01 AM 800 Views
I generally prefer modkills to lynches... - 14/03/2013 07:24:52 PM 784 Views
Don't do it! *NM* - 17/03/2013 11:57:25 PM 442 Views
So shall we do these questions? - 14/03/2013 02:18:21 PM 845 Views
yep - 2 questions of your pick or your random one - 14/03/2013 09:21:10 PM 636 Views
questions (table) - 14/03/2013 09:28:55 PM 895 Views
Your list of questions includes is off by one because it includes '1' twice - 14/03/2013 10:51:40 PM 756 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 436 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 328 Views
it literally deletes my numbers and replaces them - 15/03/2013 01:13:00 AM 724 Views
I've edited it for you. - 15/03/2013 03:35:56 AM 746 Views
... and now it is missing spaces - 15/03/2013 04:25:52 AM 769 Views
Urgh. I don't want to figure this out, I've got Heart of the Swarm to play . - 15/03/2013 05:50:26 AM 699 Views
ah, i'd been seeing adds for that, enjoy - 15/03/2013 09:09:50 AM 827 Views
Well, it is SciFi - 15/03/2013 09:32:53 AM 642 Views
answer to 4: my character is female *NM* - 15/03/2013 08:10:02 AM 325 Views
Am I humanoid? Yes. *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:56:34 PM 428 Views
answer to number one: no *NM* - 15/03/2013 07:51:06 PM 537 Views
I am so confused. - 17/03/2013 03:33:40 AM 674 Views
Ha ha, if you need help: NB me - 17/03/2013 07:46:34 PM 626 Views
Answer to number 3: Work *NM* - 17/03/2013 10:44:56 PM 479 Views
another question I just thought of... - 19/03/2013 08:49:12 AM 839 Views
Erm... I haven't actually done anything wrong. - 19/03/2013 05:11:22 PM 680 Views
i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 06:36:21 PM 821 Views
Re: i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 08:59:49 PM 759 Views
Vote: Taiga - 19/03/2013 10:44:28 PM 751 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2013 04:17:20 PM 719 Views
Don't want to reveal? I don't even know! - 20/03/2013 05:05:05 PM 783 Views
You, on the other hand... - 20/03/2013 05:06:09 PM 778 Views
Re: You, on the other hand... - 21/03/2013 12:52:33 PM 740 Views
Yeah, I'm not a criminal either... *NM* - 20/03/2013 02:39:22 PM 413 Views
Vote- Isaac - 18/03/2013 04:47:36 AM 726 Views
I say we have an in-depth discussion on what type of porn Isaac watches *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:10 PM 429 Views
Something sneaky and suspicious, I'm sure. Suprise buttsex? *NM* - 18/03/2013 05:21:42 PM 441 Views
I reckon it's all innocuously titled but really weird when you watch it. *NM* - 19/03/2013 11:45:02 PM 440 Views
there's innocously titled porn? - 20/03/2013 05:36:21 AM 810 Views
:p even the brand new player instantly suspects me *NM* - 19/03/2013 06:29:26 PM 433 Views
Wise, the young one is. *NM* - 19/03/2013 07:59:15 PM 401 Views
A quick announcement - 18/03/2013 09:08:57 AM 571 Views
Total agreement! Unvote! *NM* - 18/03/2013 10:16:42 AM 331 Views
Nice! *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:50 PM 457 Views
The replacement is galadriel3562 - 18/03/2013 06:59:52 PM 771 Views
Why does everyone think I eat people? - 18/03/2013 10:43:32 PM 746 Views
Why do you think that you don't? - 19/03/2013 04:24:59 AM 639 Views
Re: Why do you think that you don't? - 20/03/2013 11:09:08 PM 771 Views
An introduction & answer to question - 19/03/2013 07:11:09 AM 670 Views
do you guys want to do a 2nd round of questions? - 19/03/2013 06:33:40 PM 613 Views
I more or less proposed that... - 19/03/2013 09:03:24 PM 704 Views
A summary of the first round of questions: - 20/03/2013 02:43:30 PM 769 Views
So, are the Non-Aligned Worlds super common? - 20/03/2013 02:45:18 PM 750 Views
IMHO not very suspicious... - 20/03/2013 04:21:45 PM 697 Views
If being from a non-aligned world is not terribly suspicious... - 20/03/2013 05:27:31 PM 682 Views
Yeah, none would fall for that one anymore. *NM* - 20/03/2013 05:38:24 PM 437 Views
I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 08:53:18 PM 725 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 09:17:57 PM 850 Views
Hah. That would be awesome. - 20/03/2013 09:46:56 PM 635 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 21/03/2013 12:57:15 PM 710 Views
Also, I have a great singing voice. *NM* - 20/03/2013 07:53:49 PM 458 Views
I'm at PAX till Sunday, so I'll be mostly out of touch (RBIRL) - 22/03/2013 04:26:39 AM 773 Views
OH MY GOD! - 22/03/2013 07:24:34 PM 774 Views
Who? What? What's that? - 23/03/2013 12:47:02 PM 649 Views
I'm having trouble following what is going on. - 22/03/2013 04:29:32 PM 725 Views
Presumably this helps. - 22/03/2013 04:44:44 PM 757 Views
not backing away, explaining - 23/03/2013 01:07:19 PM 783 Views
Being in jail doesn't necessarily mean one is jailed justly. - 23/03/2013 01:29:36 PM 737 Views
Agree with the sentiment of being unjustly jailed but... - 23/03/2013 03:01:26 PM 743 Views
Right, but the point here is... - 23/03/2013 04:11:08 PM 741 Views
I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 04:19:12 AM 746 Views
Re: I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 10:30:14 AM 735 Views
All I know is what I learned in face to face to Mafia. - 24/03/2013 03:21:42 PM 786 Views
The gag here is Isaac is always suspected by everyone, no matter what he does. *NM* - 24/03/2013 06:13:11 PM 449 Views
Always suspected, never lynched. - 24/03/2013 07:49:00 PM 722 Views
Indeed. Dannymac will fit right in. *NM* - 24/03/2013 09:22:55 PM 402 Views
The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 03:46:26 PM 739 Views
Re: The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 05:12:14 PM 662 Views
Finally were moving ahead. Vote:Taiga - 25/03/2013 07:40:31 PM 744 Views
oh man - 26/03/2013 12:20:26 PM 825 Views
That's enough for now. Unvote. - 26/03/2013 01:01:25 PM 706 Views
yep, square 1. Sorry for that. *NM* - 26/03/2013 01:22:10 PM 341 Views
Devil's advocate: Taiga didn't really offer anything here - 26/03/2013 02:38:21 PM 646 Views
i agree, i think i'm more suspiscious - 26/03/2013 05:08:33 PM 816 Views
Lore question! - 26/03/2013 10:06:06 PM 698 Views
lore answer - 26/03/2013 10:34:54 PM 713 Views
Ooh, "rogue telepath" would be a sweet role. Do the Centauris have any telepath connections? - 27/03/2013 01:47:59 AM 591 Views
only the narn lack telepaths - 27/03/2013 02:37:22 AM 657 Views
Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 07:40:56 PM 842 Views
Re: Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 10:20:58 PM 801 Views
You are making a mistake - 27/03/2013 10:09:41 PM 757 Views
Almost certainly true. - 28/03/2013 04:54:49 AM 847 Views
A roleclaim could save you, at this point - 28/03/2013 12:17:18 PM 685 Views
Agree on the RC - 29/03/2013 11:35:54 PM 708 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:48:28 AM 753 Views
Unvote - 30/03/2013 04:39:53 PM 685 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:50:25 AM 695 Views
i think you're lying, there's no such thing as a p1 psi cop - 30/03/2013 09:54:44 PM 731 Views
You're right - 01/04/2013 03:11:16 PM 715 Views
So, what are you saying? - 02/04/2013 06:42:33 PM 671 Views
Ok, Taiga. Crashing the site in order to survive was going too far. - 29/03/2013 04:43:04 PM 728 Views
I agree.... :-> - 29/03/2013 04:52:03 PM 666 Views
Aye, the cheaty guy! *NM* - 29/03/2013 08:16:55 PM 456 Views
He crashed the site again? - 01/04/2013 03:15:54 PM 795 Views
Unvote. Unless anyone claims Taiga is lying? *NM* - 30/03/2013 06:41:13 PM 330 Views
yes, i think so - 30/03/2013 10:14:22 PM 745 Views
The site had to crash the time I have a 4 day weekend - 02/04/2013 07:23:20 PM 802 Views
I think it depends on if the lore makes sense. Isaac, what do you think of Taiga's explanation? *NM* - 03/04/2013 03:03:49 PM 429 Views
This, pretty much. *NM* - 03/04/2013 07:56:22 PM 318 Views
basically it's not very likely but is possible, anyway it doens't matter - 04/04/2013 12:15:12 PM 796 Views
I'd been thinking the same thing. - 04/04/2013 06:19:57 PM 745 Views
In fact, I unvoted because of this. - 05/04/2013 06:55:32 PM 719 Views
hypothesis - 02/04/2013 08:57:46 PM 802 Views
I'm not sure... - 03/04/2013 11:17:08 PM 710 Views
Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 08:34:36 AM 626 Views
Re: Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 12:16:18 PM 654 Views
No lynch equals mafia win. - 04/04/2013 02:14:08 PM 800 Views
Flying to a Funeral tomorow. - 04/04/2013 06:29:24 AM 754 Views
Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 03:02:29 PM 822 Views
as I said before: go kill the cop - 04/04/2013 03:25:11 PM 659 Views
you probably shouldn't tempt us - 04/04/2013 07:51:20 PM 726 Views
my rm doesn't say anything about what business, just a regular business woman. *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:05:47 AM 405 Views
ah, well then, vote: taiga - 05/04/2013 09:05:44 AM 764 Views
also... - 05/04/2013 09:14:39 AM 715 Views
Re: Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 05:19:28 PM 781 Views
I was scum in my first game too *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:06:39 AM 329 Views
Actually, that's a good point. Vote: Taiga - 04/04/2013 05:54:41 PM 761 Views
Come on, folks. Let's get to day 2. - 08/04/2013 05:56:47 PM 790 Views
Hm, yeah, I had assumed we hit the required number of votes for some reason - 08/04/2013 06:07:25 PM 628 Views
we need 5, also still waiting for people to claim it's a false claim - 08/04/2013 06:18:34 PM 624 Views
I thought that was pretty implicit in my claims of waiting for a cop claim. - 08/04/2013 09:21:17 PM 740 Views
such being the case we can go through those who have voted for him or supported it - 08/04/2013 10:40:11 PM 660 Views
Very well. Then consider this my official non-cop claim . - 08/04/2013 11:09:32 PM 785 Views
let me detail this for clarity for the others, as a question we both answered "no" to (table) - 08/04/2013 11:50:39 PM 759 Views
also, unvote: taiga, for now at least - 08/04/2013 11:54:32 PM 847 Views
To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 01:29:12 AM 798 Views
Re: To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 03:04:07 AM 731 Views
"overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 07:13:12 AM 782 Views
The number of DF is not set. - 09/04/2013 08:32:31 AM 767 Views
Gibbed? SK? - 09/04/2013 04:31:53 PM 725 Views
Re: "overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 10:32:37 AM 771 Views
While I'm a bit reluctant to divulge this... - 09/04/2013 07:21:55 AM 792 Views
Please clarify yourself.. *NM* - 09/04/2013 10:22:00 AM 423 Views
no-cop claim - 09/04/2013 04:32:22 PM 741 Views
Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:09:24 PM 780 Views
Re: Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:46:03 PM 755 Views
Eh? - 09/04/2013 10:48:55 PM 780 Views
My role is perfectly clear as well. - 09/04/2013 11:44:23 PM 797 Views
So we're waiting for someone to make a fatal error and make this easy? - 10/04/2013 04:49:46 AM 647 Views
Hm. - 10/04/2013 04:06:04 PM 687 Views
still waiting on official disclaimers from lucy and lassi - 10/04/2013 06:25:44 PM 686 Views
Not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:35:46 PM 332 Views
one to go then *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:42:16 PM 416 Views
not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:45:01 PM 446 Views
while we're waiting though - 10/04/2013 06:41:44 PM 697 Views
ok, let's try something reckless and crazy - 10/04/2013 08:06:48 PM 598 Views
No objections *NM* - 11/04/2013 09:31:01 AM 321 Views
So... whats the point of this, then? - 11/04/2013 04:33:48 PM 706 Views
ah, the ciphering is fairly normal - 11/04/2013 05:17:59 PM 820 Views
Well, ok then. - 12/04/2013 06:02:04 PM 647 Views
I don't deny that this is a plan that would likely be very profitable for us... - 12/04/2013 10:46:13 PM 548 Views
i'll start a table for it then - 13/04/2013 01:16:28 AM 746 Views
encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 01:55:49 AM 795 Views
So because we're stalled... - 13/04/2013 05:22:37 AM 657 Views
Here we go - 13/04/2013 06:42:48 AM 784 Views
Re: encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 11:36:27 AM 687 Views
Re: encrypted claims - 15/04/2013 04:30:58 PM 762 Views
Mine - 16/04/2013 12:52:30 PM 627 Views
my encrypted claims - 17/04/2013 09:13:34 AM 598 Views
RBIRL - 15/04/2013 09:06:33 PM 621 Views
we're waiting on one more encryption, so... - 17/04/2013 09:55:21 AM 733 Views
I encrypted it all together. - 17/04/2013 06:25:26 PM 792 Views
agreed *NM* - 17/04/2013 09:36:02 PM 324 Views
me too, same key for all 3 *NM* - 17/04/2013 10:09:08 PM 438 Views
I used one key for all of them as well *NM* - 17/04/2013 11:14:43 PM 450 Views
I didn't. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:23:47 PM 424 Views
Me neither. I've got a separate cipher for everyone of them. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:59:31 PM 429 Views
I'm joining the last two, three separate keys.... *NM* *NM* - 18/04/2013 10:49:55 PM 450 Views
vote: beetnemesis - 19/04/2013 12:22:12 AM 684 Views
or get a modkill... - 19/04/2013 12:24:45 AM 793 Views
also while we're burning time, and amusing subgame - 19/04/2013 12:33:25 AM 722 Views
twice you made the tables (questions and encrypted claims) and voting very late. - 19/04/2013 02:06:13 PM 716 Views
nope, I usually make tables and... - 19/04/2013 02:50:30 PM 784 Views
hmmm, - 19/04/2013 07:17:41 PM 821 Views
Hahaha, +1 *NM* - 19/04/2013 07:36:00 PM 434 Views
- 20/04/2013 03:29:27 AM 604 Views
Re: - 20/04/2013 08:58:14 AM 827 Views
And we love you for it. - 21/04/2013 06:54:28 PM 663 Views
RBIRL again *NM* - 20/04/2013 07:13:57 AM 407 Views
Not really. - 21/04/2013 04:42:24 PM 749 Views
Oh, I almost forgot: Vote: beetnemesis. - 21/04/2013 04:45:39 PM 619 Views
Re: Not really. - 22/04/2013 06:06:26 AM 747 Views
You have been abducted by aliens and replaced by some form of extraterrestrial life form. - 26/04/2013 01:27:10 AM 757 Views
nah, that happened years ago, this is recent *NM* - 26/04/2013 01:39:53 AM 433 Views
Besides, it isn't really unusual. - 26/04/2013 02:23:24 AM 742 Views
Really, you think so? - 26/04/2013 09:51:31 AM 820 Views
Your cleverity there leaves room for improvement. *NM* - 27/04/2013 12:04:47 AM 448 Views
As much as I love the discussion... - 21/04/2013 07:19:57 PM 763 Views
I join...Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 09:21:16 PM 353 Views
Well, in that case. Vote:beetnemesis - 21/04/2013 09:53:08 PM 753 Views
I prefer modkill not to end the day. - 21/04/2013 10:28:56 PM 638 Views
Ok, Vote:beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 10:39:37 PM 496 Views
Night 1 – "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." – Zack Allan - 22/04/2013 08:03:25 AM 866 Views
yes, we got lucky! *NM* - 22/04/2013 08:35:41 AM 432 Views
Indeed. Let's hope the luck keeps up. *NM* - 22/04/2013 02:40:48 PM 438 Views
Bah! - 22/04/2013 09:07:38 PM 718 Views
Too bad - 23/04/2013 07:20:51 AM 755 Views
We have a Facebook group? Neat. *NM* - 23/04/2013 06:26:44 PM 445 Views
https://www.facebook.com/groups/134337250069780/ - 23/04/2013 07:23:40 PM 669 Views
Sooo, how long is this night going to take? *NM* - 26/04/2013 07:25:47 AM 399 Views
Max 29-4...mod said so in the night Message above... *NM* - 26/04/2013 09:35:35 AM 435 Views
Huh. I missed that. *NM* - 26/04/2013 11:58:23 AM 304 Views

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