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Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM
Mid-game discussions generally being tricky for anything that clearly cants toward the town. Pretty clearly our move to code RC's on Day 1 was what swung the game, a Day 2 mass claim seems almost inevitable from the setup, considering even had no one mid-day claimed as cop the odds favor someone being the lynch target who was a cop and would have claimed to avoid death, then kicked the ball off on a mass claim. Minus the RC coding, the scum would have had a good chance of faking in as cops themselves and I suspect, without posthumous knowledge of sanity, that we'd have needed many days to determine who was what, and a loss would have been quite probable... that's my opinion anyway.

Edit: Actually now that I think of it a day 1 mass claim might even be possible, we knocked DK off because she wasn't around and didn't defend herself, in almost every scenario except lucky scum find that person would have claimed cop and someone probably would have counterclaimed to make the lynch proceed, decent chance everyone would have been inclined to vote anyway without claims, being all cops, but I think someone would have counterclaimed then the mass claim ball probably would have rolled.

With that in mind, I think we should consider banning, or informally agreeing not to do it, any sort of day 1 mass RC codings, this case was a touch unique but it will always force the scum to RC on Day 1 limiting their maneuverability... it's doable, but IMHO permitting it will probably result in coded RCs becoming the new Day 1 first 48 hours normal and I think it would introduce a new dynamic that would bias strongly to the town, and either force mods to try to account for that or put the scum at a disadvantage... I prefer an informal agreement, kinda like our not doing lie detector pacts on each day, as opposed to rules, partially because I do like the coding ability to allow simultaneous reveals by two or more people, but I do think we need to restrict it to at least some degree, and I wanted to see if we had a consensus and on what, between games.
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Game 24, Day 2 - Game has ended - 06/11/2011 06:04:27 PM 1179 Views
I'm actually a bit surprised by the choice of ? - 06/11/2011 07:34:57 PM 1088 Views
Yes, it was an oversight. He was a townie. *NM* - 06/11/2011 08:01:11 PM 440 Views
Voting record: - 07/11/2011 05:25:40 PM 955 Views
Was he suspicious of anyone yesterday? - 07/11/2011 02:52:26 PM 757 Views
Re: Was he suspicious of anyone yesterday? - 07/11/2011 03:36:31 PM 912 Views
I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it - 07/11/2011 12:43:21 AM 896 Views
... and the two things - 07/11/2011 01:29:31 AM 912 Views
I object to this plan. - 07/11/2011 02:07:35 AM 811 Views
UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT - 07/11/2011 02:59:27 PM 689 Views
Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT - 07/11/2011 06:23:42 PM 827 Views
Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT - 07/11/2011 08:17:53 PM 727 Views
Wait, would everyone be picking their own two letters? Ah, ok, it's not as dangerous as I thought - 07/11/2011 08:20:32 PM 727 Views
Yes *NM* - 07/11/2011 08:41:04 PM 428 Views
and follow that to the logical conclusion... - 07/11/2011 08:40:43 PM 981 Views
no *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:19:20 PM 461 Views
FT already banned it *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:20:45 PM 419 Views
I know, I'm just voicing my opinion *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:27:34 PM 351 Views
Besides the ban, I can't see why you'd object - 07/11/2011 06:44:14 PM 759 Views
errrm, i don't think no is a strong enough word for this *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:58:09 PM 558 Views
? will be replacing Kronin... - 07/11/2011 01:56:08 AM 783 Views
Vote: ? - 07/11/2011 02:33:43 PM 953 Views
Re: Vote: ? - 07/11/2011 02:42:15 PM 1076 Views
I'll echo that vote. - 07/11/2011 06:15:21 PM 944 Views
He could have just been being polite - 07/11/2011 06:34:30 PM 1117 Views
Very good point, I think a roleclaim from ?, using Kronin's coded roleclaim from yesterday - 07/11/2011 08:22:45 PM 892 Views
? can't decode Kronin's RC, and he wouldn't be allowed to give his own - 07/11/2011 08:45:50 PM 837 Views
yeah I could go ahead and roleclaim if you want... - 07/11/2011 08:56:41 PM 806 Views
No, I don't want you to claim - 07/11/2011 08:57:47 PM 714 Views
Wait what's the difference? - 07/11/2011 09:06:06 PM 742 Views
Re: Wait what's the difference? - 07/11/2011 09:06:23 PM 791 Views
Re: Wait what's the difference? - 07/11/2011 09:09:04 PM 771 Views
I oh got confused. - 08/11/2011 02:41:46 AM 834 Views
That is not the case against Kronin. - 07/11/2011 09:48:52 PM 658 Views
I don't think substitution is enough - 07/11/2011 10:25:27 PM 898 Views
Anybody else get a chuckle out of this? *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:36:28 PM 398 Views
Ignore the *NM* *NM* - 07/11/2011 06:43:16 PM 408 Views
doubly so... - 07/11/2011 06:49:05 PM 919 Views
out of what? *NM* - 07/11/2011 07:51:06 PM 394 Views
Shrug, I think we should still get a roleclaim from ?/Kronin - 08/11/2011 01:51:24 PM 871 Views
I coded a claim above...in response to Isaac I think... - 08/11/2011 08:46:07 PM 808 Views
Re: I coded a claim above...in response to Isaac I think... - 08/11/2011 09:39:45 PM 866 Views
Heh. Die? Die! His username makes that weird. *NM* - 08/11/2011 10:55:22 PM 450 Views
eh - 08/11/2011 10:40:47 PM 838 Views
What am I missing here? - 08/11/2011 02:32:14 PM 844 Views
Re: What am I missing here? - 08/11/2011 08:38:19 PM 878 Views
Semi-RBIRL - 09/11/2011 05:26:11 AM 770 Views
Vote: Beetnemesis - 09/11/2011 10:24:06 PM 941 Views
RC decode - 09/11/2011 10:35:52 PM 916 Views
Bah, now I have to claim as well - 09/11/2011 10:46:37 PM 796 Views
All right, let's proceed sanely then - 09/11/2011 10:51:12 PM 795 Views
OK, Unvote - 09/11/2011 11:23:35 PM 694 Views
decoding: - 09/11/2011 11:22:31 PM 834 Views
Would you mind walking through that last step? - 09/11/2011 11:44:30 PM 801 Views
Not at all. - 10/11/2011 12:09:09 AM 795 Views
Okay I confirm your decode then - 10/11/2011 12:16:22 AM 768 Views
... *NM* - 10/11/2011 01:59:58 PM 496 Views
Woah. Problems. - 09/11/2011 11:32:40 PM 732 Views
there is something really fishy going on... *NM* - 09/11/2011 11:34:09 PM 409 Views
what? - 09/11/2011 11:32:45 PM 622 Views
Re: what? - 09/11/2011 11:34:16 PM 670 Views
Actually, there's a strong chance neither is lying - 09/11/2011 11:53:35 PM 975 Views
So, what now? - 10/11/2011 12:49:12 AM 1066 Views
Is or Is Not a Cop (Table) - 10/11/2011 12:52:52 AM 829 Views
I am not a cop. *NM* - 10/11/2011 01:04:38 AM 329 Views
I'm the daycop. Vote: Ranagrande. - 10/11/2011 01:41:59 AM 779 Views
EBWOP: here's the code. - 10/11/2011 01:43:00 AM 651 Views
Decode confirmed - 10/11/2011 02:08:26 AM 657 Views
Yeah, forgot to say I used Vignere. *NM* - 10/11/2011 02:18:31 AM 404 Views
EBWOP again - 10/11/2011 01:44:04 AM 626 Views
Stand by for the moment - 10/11/2011 01:49:38 AM 819 Views
Jesus...I REALLY need to read everything before I start posting. - 10/11/2011 01:54:11 AM 805 Views
Add to that the next follow up, that ? might previously have been a Day Cop too - 10/11/2011 02:04:29 AM 839 Views
It's possible... - 10/11/2011 02:18:02 AM 768 Views
Re: It's possible... - 10/11/2011 02:30:00 AM 1106 Views
I am a daycop. I found Isaac innocent. *NM* - 10/11/2011 02:02:05 PM 442 Views
We still need you role decode *NM* - 10/11/2011 06:19:53 PM 372 Views
(I did, in my other message) - 10/11/2011 07:18:43 PM 620 Views
Okay, got ya, decode confirmed *NM* - 10/11/2011 08:02:55 PM 386 Views
i am a cop - 10/11/2011 07:00:14 PM 638 Views
and my decode - 10/11/2011 07:14:38 PM 809 Views
Yep, decode confirmed *NM* - 10/11/2011 08:06:16 PM 456 Views
Also, which ? did you check? - 10/11/2011 08:08:05 PM 723 Views
original ? - 10/11/2011 08:10:30 PM 826 Views
Thanks *NM* - 10/11/2011 08:11:13 PM 366 Views
Not a cop *NM* - 10/11/2011 11:48:27 PM 622 Views
To the decode-mobile! *plays 60s Batman music* - 11/11/2011 02:32:06 PM 709 Views
Let's take another look at that poem - 10/11/2011 01:44:36 AM 897 Views
Hahaha I have to read all of these posts, but FT, you're insane. - 10/11/2011 01:58:01 PM 858 Views
FT IS insane. Turns out I was missing something after all. *NM* - 10/11/2011 09:59:56 PM 354 Views
OK! Here we go: - 10/11/2011 02:23:10 PM 870 Views
Re: OK! Here we go: - 10/11/2011 05:52:25 PM 938 Views
I think it's time to consider mass RC - 10/11/2011 08:15:36 PM 718 Views
Sure... - 10/11/2011 09:19:49 PM 997 Views
There's a lot of options still, and decode confirmed by the way - 10/11/2011 09:48:05 PM 966 Views
I have been nominated! - 10/11/2011 10:30:37 PM 842 Views
Thanks - 10/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 897 Views
My pleasure *NM* - 10/11/2011 10:44:23 PM 335 Views
*NM* - 10/11/2011 11:21:59 PM 375 Views
Not saying that that is right of course... - 10/11/2011 11:23:23 PM 802 Views
Hmm... - 10/11/2011 11:20:50 PM 685 Views
I totally agree. - 10/11/2011 09:54:25 PM 707 Views
The wasy I see it, anybody not claiming cop is going to get lynched - 10/11/2011 11:57:24 PM 884 Views
Lying and claiming cop when you can't decode your RC will get you lynched faster. *NM* - 11/11/2011 12:33:05 AM 375 Views
Which I didn't do *NM* - 11/11/2011 02:05:30 AM 417 Views
I know, I know. - 11/11/2011 03:57:51 AM 702 Views
Fox, did you get a response on your investigation? *NM* - 11/11/2011 12:20:12 AM 468 Views
I hadn't performed one yet. - 11/11/2011 12:34:48 AM 796 Views
Isaac - 11/11/2011 02:00:18 AM 905 Views
Or me - 11/11/2011 02:07:10 AM 819 Views
I'd recommend ? - 11/11/2011 02:15:24 AM 679 Views
Bring it. - 11/11/2011 03:10:14 AM 720 Views
Someone who has already been copped - 11/11/2011 03:57:08 AM 666 Views
I'll investigate ? because yuna's the other daycop - 11/11/2011 04:00:49 AM 676 Views
Wait a minute....I meant that I would be testing it against rana. Not yuna - 11/11/2011 01:39:16 PM 940 Views
no i'm not, im a normal cop *NM* - 11/11/2011 09:18:23 PM 447 Views
I had everything messed up anyway *NM* - 12/11/2011 10:45:54 PM 389 Views
Vote: Beetnemisis/RBIRL - 11/11/2011 02:04:35 AM 747 Views
Hey people sorry for the unexpected RBIRL - 11/11/2011 11:47:11 AM 909 Views
RBIRL here too. - 11/11/2011 01:34:45 PM 654 Views
I'm thinking either Hieshyn or ? - 11/11/2011 04:32:16 PM 803 Views
It kinda seems like Hieshyn and ? are our logical lynch targets, plus Cop (Table) - 11/11/2011 10:09:52 PM 1018 Views
Fox investigated ? and found him innocent *NM* - 11/11/2011 10:41:39 PM 373 Views
Vote: ? - 11/11/2011 10:46:43 PM 680 Views
Yeah, that seems logical next step, Vote: ? - 13/11/2011 02:59:25 AM 992 Views
mrr, vote ? then *NM* - 13/11/2011 10:27:49 AM 550 Views
Think my vote was on ? already. - 13/11/2011 04:26:49 PM 790 Views
Vote: ? *NM* - 14/11/2011 02:27:20 AM 490 Views
That should be lynch with yours, so... - 14/11/2011 03:07:36 AM 729 Views
? Has been lynched - 14/11/2011 03:50:31 AM 881 Views
Game ends. - 14/11/2011 10:25:04 PM 760 Views
Role list: - 14/11/2011 10:26:32 PM 805 Views
Jeeez. - 14/11/2011 11:43:47 PM 767 Views
Kronin originally RC as a Tracker so we might have done better if we had been able to continue *NM* - 15/11/2011 12:06:07 AM 387 Views
Not even cause tracker is still the odd man out. - 15/11/2011 12:20:17 AM 760 Views
That might have worked but everyone would have had targets - 15/11/2011 02:20:43 AM 852 Views
Maybe, but I still would have known he was guilty. *NM* - 15/11/2011 02:55:43 AM 352 Views
You were paranoid, amusingly enough. - 15/11/2011 02:59:43 AM 774 Views
Ya there was no hope for us *NM* - 15/11/2011 12:04:06 AM 394 Views
YAY! - 14/11/2011 10:48:54 PM 751 Views
Wow. *NM* - 15/11/2011 01:09:28 AM 456 Views
Also I would like to be added to the list of future Moderator - 15/11/2011 12:07:51 AM 637 Views
You'd have first dibs via our order of precedence system - 15/11/2011 02:05:04 AM 892 Views
Also whoever Mods should probably post a recruitment thread on some other NBs - 15/11/2011 02:50:02 AM 811 Views
I expect my next game to draw in some new players. - 15/11/2011 02:58:59 AM 765 Views
More is better, okay that would be Hieshyn or Beet then, unless ? wants to toss in - 15/11/2011 03:26:25 AM 750 Views
Nope I'm not ready to mod yet... - 15/11/2011 08:29:24 PM 690 Views
hey - 15/11/2011 09:46:28 PM 621 Views
It's Hieshyn's if he wants it, otherwise I can go next. - 15/11/2011 12:40:13 PM 814 Views
I'm not ready to go next - 15/11/2011 02:43:07 PM 879 Views
Aight, I think it's me then. - 15/11/2011 03:15:21 PM 647 Views
Re: Aight, I think it's me then. - 15/11/2011 04:09:07 PM 842 Views
Deathless Mafia? Is that a thing? SQUEE, Mistborn! *NM* - 15/11/2011 10:15:49 PM 355 Views
If it wasn't a thing before, it is now! *NM* - 15/11/2011 10:53:14 PM 347 Views
ooooh - 15/11/2011 11:27:26 PM 690 Views
You've got a week to read the last 2....GO, GO, GO!! *NM* - 15/11/2011 11:43:21 PM 374 Views
hah! i could read both in two days - 16/11/2011 07:56:58 PM 717 Views
Just for you, the game shall be spoiler free! *NM* - 16/11/2011 12:12:24 AM 344 Views
Speaking of which, any timeline yet? - 19/11/2011 07:25:11 PM 712 Views
Sounds fantastic - 16/11/2011 12:10:06 AM 850 Views
That could also be fantastic. *NM* - 16/11/2011 12:13:29 AM 390 Views
I AM ALL SORTS OF PUMPED. *NM* - 16/11/2011 09:11:38 PM 415 Views
Though may or may not actually be playing... *NM* - 16/11/2011 09:11:58 PM 356 Views
Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding - 15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM 988 Views
Yeah, I really didn't like that idea. - 15/11/2011 02:58:21 AM 1070 Views
An informal agreement is probably the way to go then - 15/11/2011 03:08:17 AM 882 Views
Re: An informal agreement is probably the way to go then - 15/11/2011 03:36:38 AM 783 Views
Re: An informal agreement is probably the way to go then - 15/11/2011 03:43:39 AM 1125 Views
I really didn't like it either. - 16/11/2011 06:20:33 PM 771 Views
I liked my plan: Random voting ftw! *NM* - 16/11/2011 06:29:07 PM 392 Views

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