Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding
Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM
Mid-game discussions generally being tricky for anything that clearly cants toward the town. Pretty clearly our move to code RC's on Day 1 was what swung the game, a Day 2 mass claim seems almost inevitable from the setup, considering even had no one mid-day claimed as cop the odds favor someone being the lynch target who was a cop and would have claimed to avoid death, then kicked the ball off on a mass claim. Minus the RC coding, the scum would have had a good chance of faking in as cops themselves and I suspect, without posthumous knowledge of sanity, that we'd have needed many days to determine who was what, and a loss would have been quite probable... that's my opinion anyway.
Edit: Actually now that I think of it a day 1 mass claim might even be possible, we knocked DK off because she wasn't around and didn't defend herself, in almost every scenario except lucky scum find that person would have claimed cop and someone probably would have counterclaimed to make the lynch proceed, decent chance everyone would have been inclined to vote anyway without claims, being all cops, but I think someone would have counterclaimed then the mass claim ball probably would have rolled.
With that in mind, I think we should consider banning, or informally agreeing not to do it, any sort of day 1 mass RC codings, this case was a touch unique but it will always force the scum to RC on Day 1 limiting their maneuverability... it's doable, but IMHO permitting it will probably result in coded RCs becoming the new Day 1 first 48 hours normal and I think it would introduce a new dynamic that would bias strongly to the town, and either force mods to try to account for that or put the scum at a disadvantage... I prefer an informal agreement, kinda like our not doing lie detector pacts on each day, as opposed to rules, partially because I do like the coding ability to allow simultaneous reveals by two or more people, but I do think we need to restrict it to at least some degree, and I wanted to see if we had a consensus and on what, between games.
Edit: Actually now that I think of it a day 1 mass claim might even be possible, we knocked DK off because she wasn't around and didn't defend herself, in almost every scenario except lucky scum find that person would have claimed cop and someone probably would have counterclaimed to make the lynch proceed, decent chance everyone would have been inclined to vote anyway without claims, being all cops, but I think someone would have counterclaimed then the mass claim ball probably would have rolled.
With that in mind, I think we should consider banning, or informally agreeing not to do it, any sort of day 1 mass RC codings, this case was a touch unique but it will always force the scum to RC on Day 1 limiting their maneuverability... it's doable, but IMHO permitting it will probably result in coded RCs becoming the new Day 1 first 48 hours normal and I think it would introduce a new dynamic that would bias strongly to the town, and either force mods to try to account for that or put the scum at a disadvantage... I prefer an informal agreement, kinda like our not doing lie detector pacts on each day, as opposed to rules, partially because I do like the coding ability to allow simultaneous reveals by two or more people, but I do think we need to restrict it to at least some degree, and I wanted to see if we had a consensus and on what, between games.
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This message last edited by Isaac on 15/11/2011 at 02:29:13 AM
Game 24, Day 2 - Game has ended
06/11/2011 06:04:27 PM
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I'm actually a bit surprised by the choice of ?
06/11/2011 07:34:57 PM
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I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
07/11/2011 12:43:21 AM
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Re: I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
07/11/2011 12:57:32 AM
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... and the two things
07/11/2011 01:29:31 AM
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UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
07/11/2011 02:59:27 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
07/11/2011 06:23:42 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
07/11/2011 08:17:53 PM
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Wait, would everyone be picking their own two letters? Ah, ok, it's not as dangerous as I thought
07/11/2011 08:20:32 PM
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no *NM*
07/11/2011 06:19:20 PM
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FT already banned it *NM*
07/11/2011 06:20:45 PM
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Vote: ?
07/11/2011 02:33:43 PM
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He could have just been being polite
07/11/2011 06:34:30 PM
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Very good point, I think a roleclaim from ?, using Kronin's coded roleclaim from yesterday
07/11/2011 08:22:45 PM
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? can't decode Kronin's RC, and he wouldn't be allowed to give his own
07/11/2011 08:45:50 PM
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yeah I could go ahead and roleclaim if you want...
07/11/2011 08:56:41 PM
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No, I don't want you to claim
07/11/2011 08:57:47 PM
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Wait what's the difference?
07/11/2011 09:06:06 PM
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is this gonna turn into that game where i got lynched thrice in one game but for ? instead?
07/11/2011 10:24:15 PM
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Anybody else get a chuckle out of this? *NM*
07/11/2011 06:36:28 PM
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out of what? *NM*
07/11/2011 07:51:06 PM
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you have to go into the messege like i said ignore the *NM* prompt *NM*
07/11/2011 08:54:22 PM
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Shrug, I think we should still get a roleclaim from ?/Kronin
08/11/2011 01:51:24 PM
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I coded a claim above...in response to Isaac I think...
08/11/2011 08:46:07 PM
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Vote: Beetnemesis
09/11/2011 10:24:06 PM
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Bah, now I have to claim as well
09/11/2011 10:46:37 PM
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decoding:
09/11/2011 11:22:31 PM
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Would you mind walking through that last step?
09/11/2011 11:44:30 PM
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Hmm...You mention me a lot in that post...Was that me as ? or me as Kronin? I'm a tad confused.
09/11/2011 11:28:55 PM
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Is or Is Not a Cop (Table)
10/11/2011 12:52:52 AM
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I'm the daycop. Vote: Ranagrande.
10/11/2011 01:41:59 AM
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EBWOP: here's the code.
10/11/2011 01:43:00 AM
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EBWOP again
10/11/2011 01:44:04 AM
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Stand by for the moment
10/11/2011 01:49:38 AM
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Jesus...I REALLY need to read everything before I start posting.
10/11/2011 01:54:11 AM
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Add to that the next follow up, that ? might previously have been a Day Cop too
10/11/2011 02:04:29 AM
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I am a daycop. I found Isaac innocent. *NM*
10/11/2011 02:02:05 PM
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We still need you role decode *NM*
10/11/2011 06:19:53 PM
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i am a cop
10/11/2011 07:00:14 PM
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Ah, I was wondering how come there was suddenly thirty new posts in this thread.
10/11/2011 03:02:10 AM
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I think it's time to consider mass RC
10/11/2011 08:15:36 PM
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Sure...
10/11/2011 09:19:49 PM
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There's a lot of options still, and decode confirmed by the way
10/11/2011 09:48:05 PM
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The wasy I see it, anybody not claiming cop is going to get lynched
10/11/2011 11:57:24 PM
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Lying and claiming cop when you can't decode your RC will get you lynched faster. *NM*
11/11/2011 12:33:05 AM
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Fox, did you get a response on your investigation? *NM*
11/11/2011 12:20:12 AM
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I hadn't performed one yet.
11/11/2011 12:34:48 AM
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I'll investigate ? because yuna's the other daycop
11/11/2011 04:00:49 AM
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Wait a minute....I meant that I would be testing it against rana. Not yuna
11/11/2011 01:39:16 PM
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It kinda seems like Hieshyn and ? are our logical lynch targets, plus Cop (Table)
11/11/2011 10:09:52 PM
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Vote: ?
11/11/2011 10:46:43 PM
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I'm down with voting for ?, as long as everyone is clear on what our night actions should be
12/11/2011 04:49:53 AM
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Game ends.
14/11/2011 10:25:04 PM
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Role list:
14/11/2011 10:26:32 PM
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Jeeez.
14/11/2011 11:43:47 PM
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Kronin originally RC as a Tracker so we might have done better if we had been able to continue *NM*
15/11/2011 12:06:07 AM
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Also I would like to be added to the list of future Moderator
15/11/2011 12:07:51 AM
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You'd have first dibs via our order of precedence system
15/11/2011 02:05:04 AM
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Also whoever Mods should probably post a recruitment thread on some other NBs
15/11/2011 02:50:02 AM
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I expect my next game to draw in some new players.
15/11/2011 02:58:59 AM
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More is better, okay that would be Hieshyn or Beet then, unless ? wants to toss in
15/11/2011 03:26:25 AM
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I don't have anything prepared, so if Hieshyn wants it, I'll be happy to go after him
15/11/2011 03:28:40 AM
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I'm not ready to go next
15/11/2011 02:43:07 PM
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Aight, I think it's me then.
15/11/2011 03:15:21 PM
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ooooh
15/11/2011 11:27:26 PM
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Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding
15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM
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Yeah, I really didn't like that idea.
15/11/2011 02:58:21 AM
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An informal agreement is probably the way to go then
15/11/2011 03:08:17 AM
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Although really, it's the same as if in IRL everyone just wrote down their role on a piece of paper
15/11/2011 03:28:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think it warrants being banned (hence why I didn't), but I don't like it. *NM*
15/11/2011 03:37:59 AM
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