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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
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What's this Template stuff? - 25/07/2011 12:54:57 AM 1897 Views
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1814 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1850 Views
I'm human as well - 25/07/2011 03:00:52 PM 1700 Views
human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 1042 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 02:37:34 PM 1960 Views
I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 1004 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 09:49:57 PM 1920 Views
I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1947 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1905 Views
Hm. OK, without spoilers, here's some background information - 26/07/2011 01:56:43 PM 2136 Views
Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1870 Views
You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1862 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1823 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1815 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1832 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1857 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 1059 Views
I am human. *NM* - 26/07/2011 01:29:01 AM 1037 Views
Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1794 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1934 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1857 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1942 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1908 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1858 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1852 Views
I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:29:05 PM 1843 Views
Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1898 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1767 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1870 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1917 Views
On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books? (CHART) - 27/07/2011 06:40:15 PM 1855 Views
I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1979 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1721 Views
1.5 probs - 28/07/2011 01:59:29 AM 1870 Views
1 - 30/07/2011 01:07:33 AM 1870 Views
Interlude 1 - 28/07/2011 02:08:46 AM 1953 Views
THIS IS EXCITING *NM* - 28/07/2011 03:04:23 AM 1140 Views
Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 1090 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 1059 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 1056 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1949 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1803 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1756 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1918 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1769 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1791 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1824 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1716 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1936 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1790 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1752 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 1048 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1855 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1771 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1858 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 1019 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 961 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 956 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 1048 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 998 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1923 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1920 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1800 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1742 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 982 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 1038 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 1037 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1761 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 1005 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 1056 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 968 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1845 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1829 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1882 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1811 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1822 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1901 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1760 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1863 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1856 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1894 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1855 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1868 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1833 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1785 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1762 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1832 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1850 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1769 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1794 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1787 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1905 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 984 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1776 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1879 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1779 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1872 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1888 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1863 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1823 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1801 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1812 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1837 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1860 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1864 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1898 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1925 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1916 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1803 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1859 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1856 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1924 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1911 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1922 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1844 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1839 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1840 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1815 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 2044 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1857 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1812 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1837 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1773 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1833 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1724 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1919 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1857 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 1024 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1857 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1843 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1862 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1702 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1954 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1708 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1896 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1908 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1783 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 940 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 1016 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1841 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1782 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 924 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 1012 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1862 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1789 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1862 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1959 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1831 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1887 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1918 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1954 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1857 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 1014 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 1001 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1780 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1862 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1835 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1811 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1837 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1892 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1862 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1836 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1903 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1805 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1801 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1982 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1890 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1770 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1873 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1806 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2356 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1972 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1944 Views

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