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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1133 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1126 Views
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human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 692 Views
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I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1159 Views
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You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1124 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1114 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1123 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1136 Views
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Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 743 Views
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Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1070 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1189 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1144 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1211 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1184 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1164 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1095 Views
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Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1187 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1059 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1156 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1229 Views
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I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1195 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1020 Views
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Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 734 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 720 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 675 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1128 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1069 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1061 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1218 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1012 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1076 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1045 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1033 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1206 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1058 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1075 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 706 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1161 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1079 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1155 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 700 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 651 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 637 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 723 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 644 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1209 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1202 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1089 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1030 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 649 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 711 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 669 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1075 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 689 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 723 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 652 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1126 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1143 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1171 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1116 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1134 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1206 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1058 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1149 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1151 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1194 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1119 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1173 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1125 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1108 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1061 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1079 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1138 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1092 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1123 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1068 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1188 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 657 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1087 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1151 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1089 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1180 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1162 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1158 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1088 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1113 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1054 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1132 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1154 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1165 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1183 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1244 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1222 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1109 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1125 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1137 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1215 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1187 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1216 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1117 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1125 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1146 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1107 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1345 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1194 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1088 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1125 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1109 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1124 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1042 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1231 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1145 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 686 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1142 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1151 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1148 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1007 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1218 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 998 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1162 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1188 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1094 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 601 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 692 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1098 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1075 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 617 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 676 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1137 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1087 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1188 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1240 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1107 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1174 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1197 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1234 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1177 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 664 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 665 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1082 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1182 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1122 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1107 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1135 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1173 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1208 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1176 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1174 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1100 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1103 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1319 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1239 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1076 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1165 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1098 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 1610 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1242 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1261 Views

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