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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1563 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1559 Views
I'm human as well - 25/07/2011 03:00:52 PM 1460 Views
human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 899 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 02:37:34 PM 1681 Views
I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 860 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 09:49:57 PM 1665 Views
I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1617 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1645 Views
Hm. OK, without spoilers, here's some background information - 26/07/2011 01:56:43 PM 1884 Views
Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1608 Views
You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1576 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1561 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1566 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1581 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1610 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 920 Views
I am human. *NM* - 26/07/2011 01:29:01 AM 905 Views
Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1513 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1648 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1594 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1647 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1624 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1586 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1552 Views
I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:29:05 PM 1594 Views
Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1633 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1502 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1593 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1661 Views
On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books? (CHART) - 27/07/2011 06:40:15 PM 1598 Views
I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1644 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1456 Views
1.5 probs - 28/07/2011 01:59:29 AM 1635 Views
1 - 30/07/2011 01:07:33 AM 1588 Views
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THIS IS EXCITING *NM* - 28/07/2011 03:04:23 AM 990 Views
Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 918 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 906 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 906 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1585 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1530 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1497 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1666 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1496 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1529 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1487 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1468 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1664 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1531 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1506 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 895 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1601 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1526 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1588 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 889 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 835 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 822 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 916 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 856 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1660 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1640 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1529 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1470 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 838 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 897 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 859 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1510 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 882 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 930 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 836 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1584 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1591 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1615 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1556 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1562 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1647 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1499 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1593 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1591 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1641 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1584 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1611 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1577 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1527 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1503 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1541 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1569 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1527 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1561 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1517 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1651 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 850 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1515 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1629 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1518 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1607 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1605 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1593 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1546 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1544 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1488 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1569 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1599 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1604 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1626 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1680 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1664 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1553 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1559 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1582 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1656 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1640 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1665 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1555 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1580 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1592 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1544 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1782 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1631 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1543 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1573 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1505 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1562 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1460 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1662 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1597 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 881 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1584 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1568 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1597 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1443 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1650 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1431 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1607 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1637 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1529 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 794 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 875 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1558 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1509 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 800 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 873 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1582 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1520 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1617 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1686 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1573 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1625 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1649 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1694 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1615 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 871 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 848 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1529 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1622 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1551 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1539 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1584 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1627 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1624 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1599 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1609 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1548 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1547 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1739 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1665 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1517 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1626 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1542 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2076 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1689 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1706 Views

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