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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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What's this Template stuff? - 25/07/2011 12:54:57 AM 1710 Views
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1641 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1640 Views
I'm human as well - 25/07/2011 03:00:52 PM 1530 Views
human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 935 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 02:37:34 PM 1777 Views
I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 906 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 09:49:57 PM 1751 Views
I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1710 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1725 Views
Hm. OK, without spoilers, here's some background information - 26/07/2011 01:56:43 PM 1955 Views
Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1687 Views
You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1687 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1666 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1639 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1670 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1681 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 962 Views
I am human. *NM* - 26/07/2011 01:29:01 AM 937 Views
Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1608 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1739 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1685 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1761 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1720 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1668 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1654 Views
I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:29:05 PM 1682 Views
Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1733 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1584 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1679 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1741 Views
On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books? (CHART) - 27/07/2011 06:40:15 PM 1683 Views
I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1806 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1549 Views
1.5 probs - 28/07/2011 01:59:29 AM 1714 Views
1 - 30/07/2011 01:07:33 AM 1674 Views
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THIS IS EXCITING *NM* - 28/07/2011 03:04:23 AM 1034 Views
Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 977 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 958 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 953 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1711 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1605 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1589 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1750 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1595 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1602 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1652 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1548 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1750 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1616 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1570 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 949 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1684 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1597 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1669 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 935 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 867 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 863 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 958 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 900 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1736 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1719 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1612 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1561 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 875 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 931 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 908 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1593 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 916 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 965 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 879 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1663 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1672 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1705 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1641 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1642 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1717 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1587 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1679 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1684 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1718 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1672 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1701 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1654 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1609 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1581 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1618 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1662 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1592 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1636 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1609 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1733 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 882 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1589 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1715 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1604 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1681 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1692 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1659 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1637 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1616 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1582 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1645 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1675 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1694 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1706 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1760 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1749 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1624 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1646 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1663 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1741 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1724 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1747 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1653 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1668 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1673 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1629 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1866 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1698 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1619 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1657 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1592 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1640 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1542 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1738 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1678 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 923 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1676 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1662 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1685 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1522 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1745 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1512 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1703 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1713 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1604 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 835 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 917 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1651 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1593 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 830 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 916 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1652 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1596 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1695 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1769 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1654 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1705 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1724 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1774 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1686 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 914 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 898 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1612 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1692 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1646 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1631 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1657 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1712 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1693 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1674 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1696 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1638 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1624 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1822 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1737 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1592 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1709 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1617 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2169 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1772 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1780 Views

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