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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1597 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1590 Views
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human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 912 Views
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I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 882 Views
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I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1664 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1678 Views
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Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1636 Views
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Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1613 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1596 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1618 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1635 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 931 Views
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Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1552 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1689 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1636 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1708 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1666 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1615 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1602 Views
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Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1682 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1532 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1627 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1688 Views
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I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1751 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1504 Views
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That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 920 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 930 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1639 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1561 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1538 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1701 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1539 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1556 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1608 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1500 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1704 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1572 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1526 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 914 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1629 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1554 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1621 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 903 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 844 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 839 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 932 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 871 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1691 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1674 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1558 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1507 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 851 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 909 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 876 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1542 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 891 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 943 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 851 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1609 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1621 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1652 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1589 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1596 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1669 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1534 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1634 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1632 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1672 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1616 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1653 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1608 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1562 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1524 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1564 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1603 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1545 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1592 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1554 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1683 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 862 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1543 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1656 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1559 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1635 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1647 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1619 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1583 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1575 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1529 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1594 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1633 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1635 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1660 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1711 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1698 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1578 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1596 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1613 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1686 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1672 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1698 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1601 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1611 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1626 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1572 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1812 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1653 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1565 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1606 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1535 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1590 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1494 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1682 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1631 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 896 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1613 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1609 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1635 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1474 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1677 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1466 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1640 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1667 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1557 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 812 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 892 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1588 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1539 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 807 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 887 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1610 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1550 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1642 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1715 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1609 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1660 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1675 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1727 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1648 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 884 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 863 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1561 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1642 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1595 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1572 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1610 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1647 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1652 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1624 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1648 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1590 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1574 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1769 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1689 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1549 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1653 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1571 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2119 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1724 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1742 Views

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