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That one I've got covered Isaac Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.


No, that one I did actually consider, any player who gets in the hammer vote before someone would nullify that and I'm not really worried about someone pulling it off once or twice, they'd finger themselves as allied in some fashion, though I probably need to amend rules so that anyone capable of NB communication can not tell anyone else what they would pick for RPS in advance just to make it less valuable. The matter is, however, not an issue, for reasons I can't discuss without lending one faction or entity an advantage over the other(s).

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.


I should have noticed it myself, it's an easy patch it's just that in the middle of it, I dislike changing rules, if I void your vote I'm removing from you an effective legal escape route which amounts to punishing you for being clever, if I ask you to voluntarily withdraw it I potentially generate mod-made WIFOMs which I really hate, amongst other things. My current preference is to just null the vote and declare a 48 hour extension, I'm just running through the list of possible screw ups before enacting that.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1707 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1706 Views
I'm human as well - 25/07/2011 03:00:52 PM 1587 Views
human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 967 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 02:37:34 PM 1846 Views
I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 939 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 09:49:57 PM 1816 Views
I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1792 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1787 Views
Hm. OK, without spoilers, here's some background information - 26/07/2011 01:56:43 PM 2020 Views
Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1751 Views
You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1758 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1717 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1703 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1730 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1745 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 990 Views
I am human. *NM* - 26/07/2011 01:29:01 AM 971 Views
Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1683 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1819 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1753 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1832 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1799 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1743 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1719 Views
I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:29:05 PM 1739 Views
Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1795 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1639 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1744 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1798 Views
On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books? (CHART) - 27/07/2011 06:40:15 PM 1747 Views
I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1866 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1614 Views
1.5 probs - 28/07/2011 01:59:29 AM 1767 Views
1 - 30/07/2011 01:07:33 AM 1742 Views
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THIS IS EXCITING *NM* - 28/07/2011 03:04:23 AM 1068 Views
Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 1008 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 992 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 989 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1803 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1670 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1648 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1810 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1648 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1672 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1722 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1608 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1818 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1687 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1638 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 980 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1738 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1652 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1731 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 961 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 901 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 889 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 985 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 936 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1804 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1792 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1677 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1628 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 908 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 959 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 946 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1650 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 941 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 997 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 908 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1742 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1733 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1770 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1696 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1706 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1795 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1653 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1752 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1743 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1796 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1735 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1764 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1716 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1676 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1647 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1695 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1730 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1659 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1690 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1676 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1800 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 919 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1659 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1771 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1673 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1742 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1753 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1720 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1695 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1686 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1655 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1715 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1739 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1760 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1775 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1824 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1802 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1690 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1723 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1729 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1804 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1786 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1809 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1723 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1730 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1733 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1688 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1934 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1748 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1690 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1734 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1668 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1713 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1597 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1797 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1749 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 952 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1746 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1727 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1750 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1588 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1810 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1580 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1772 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1775 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1668 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 875 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 948 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1723 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1658 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 862 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 949 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1710 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1680 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1758 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1822 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1713 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1765 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1786 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1829 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1745 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 942 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 938 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1672 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1755 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1722 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1701 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1729 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1774 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1752 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1727 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1769 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1696 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1685 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1882 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1793 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1661 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1771 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1695 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2246 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1836 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1840 Views

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