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That does still leave a major loophole. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.
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You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1220 Views
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Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1251 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1176 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 700 Views
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Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1176 Views
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Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1025 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1239 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1015 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1190 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1205 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1114 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 610 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 709 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1114 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1093 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 628 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 686 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1153 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1110 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1206 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1266 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1124 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1190 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1219 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1258 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1197 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 679 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 677 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1108 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1205 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1138 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1134 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1156 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1197 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1228 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1193 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1196 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1123 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1137 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1335 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1260 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1094 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1199 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1121 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 1639 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1265 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1280 Views

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