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What's the Code Duello? Isaac Send a noteboard - 25/07/2011 12:53:40 AM
Excerpt from the novel Dead Beat -

"It's based on Code Duello," Bob said. "Well, technically it's based on much older rules that eventually inspired the Code Duello, but that's just chickens and eggs. Ortega is the challenger, and you're the challenged."
"I know that. I get to pick the weapons and the ground, right?"
"Wrong," Bob said. "You pick the weapons, but he gets to choose the time and location."
"Damn," I muttered. "I was going to take high noon out in a park somewhere. But I guess I can just say that we'll duel with magic."
"If it's one of the available choices. It almost always is."
"Who decides?"
"The vampires and the Council will pick from a list of neutral emissaries. The emissary decides."
I nodded. "So if I don't have it as an option I'm screwed, right? I mean, magic, wizard, kind of my bag."
Bob said. "Yeah, but be careful. It's got to be a weapon that he can use. If you pick one he can't, he can refuse it, and force you to take your second choice."
"Meaning what?"
"Meaning that regardless of what happens, if he doesn't want to fight you in magic, he won't have to. Ortega didn't get to be a warlord without thinking things through, Harry."

....

"Um. Okay. Look, I haven't exactly chosen a weapon yet, either. If I-"
"Simply choose one, Mister Dresden. Will, skill, energy, or flesh."
"Wait," I said. "I thought I got to pick swords or guns or something."
Ivy shook her head. "Read your copy of the Accords. I choose what is available, and I choose the ancient ways. You may match wills with your opponent to gauge which of you is the most determined. You may match your skill at arms against his, each of you with weaponry of your individual choosing. You may wield energy forces against each other. Or you may challenge him to unarmed combat." She considered. "I would advise against the last."
"Thanks," I muttered. "I'll take magic. Energy."


Failed Lynches and the Code Duello
Yes, a lynch can fail. When the hammer vote is cast the hammer’s RPS and the lynchee’s RPS are compared, no stats involved. If the hammer wins, the lynchee dies, end of story. If they are tied or the lynchee wins, that person may challenge the hammer to a duel. They have up to 24 hours after the hammer vote has been cast to issue the challenge, along with their ‘choice of weapons’, which is first choice and a second choice of the attributes, if they don’t get the challenge issued in those 24 hours, along with weapon choice, they forfeit the duel and die. The hammer can accept the duel or withdraw their vote, in which case play continues with the lynchee hanging on at L-1 and that player who cast the hammer vote can’t vote again for them that day. If the hammer doesn’t accept the duel within 24 hours of it being issued, he forfeits the duel.

Once the lynchee has issued the challenge with their first and second choice for weapons, the hammer can accept the lynchee’s first choice, or decline it and the second choice is automatically selected. So if the lynchee, or challenger, picks Energy and Skill, the hammer can accept Energy, or they can decline it and the duel will go to skill, they can’t decline that. Both players NB the mod rock, paper, scissors and the outcome of that RPS adds on to the relevant attribute for the duel. As the day is still proceeding both combatants and surviving players may continue to talk, offering suggestions, cheerleading, lying through their teeth, etc.

Outcome for the duel: If the hammer’s score ties or exceeds the lynchee’s score, the lynchee dies and the night phase is entered, done deal. If the hammer loses, night phase is entered, neither duelists dies, but the hammer owes the lynchee one ‘boon’. This boon takes the form of one question sent via NB to the mod and the hammer, to which the hammer must answer truthfully or decline, if they decline they may not target that player with a night action that night, nor vote for them the next day. Either may divulge what the exchange was, or lie about it, but they may not quote those NBs. The list of approved questions are:

What is your name?
What is you score in (pick an attribute)?
Did you take a night action on (pick a night)?

So the risk to a hammer from a duel is small but real, they can’t die from it directly but it can result in a serious disadvantage particularly if the lynchee is clever. The lynchee basically goes in to it with a 1 in 3 chance of being killed outright though (as opposed to a 100% chance of dying normally involved in a lynch) but a decent chance someone might be wary of hammering them or withdraw the vote rather than accept the duel. All things being equal the lynchee has less than even odds of surviving the duel too, in terms of pure randomness (though they get to choose weapons) and if the hammer withdraws their vote by declining the duel, someone who wants you dead and feels pretty confident might unvote and ask a non-voter to vote so they can hammer you and go for the duel. Keep in mind that stats are primarily character driven, not role related, and everyone has that ‘free point’. Also keep in mind that if you win a boon, and the hammer chooses to answer you, nothing is stopping them from stabbing you in the eyeball that night if they have a NK, or voting for you the next day with a better idea of what your strengths are, or telling everyone that they had rock as their RPS choice and so you can’t be scissors or you’d be dead, albeit it telling that truthfully makes them pretty vulnerable. There's no limit on the number of times this can happen in a day, beyond that a person can't vote again that day for someone they hammered, so you can literally dogpile someone via repeated challenges by various players. Keep in mind though that if they survive to challenge someone for a duel, and win the duel, the day ends. You can only dogpile if hammers withdraw their vote rather than duel.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
This message last edited by Isaac on 29/07/2011 at 04:25:23 AM
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Who is Mr. X? - 25/07/2011 12:54:07 AM 1268 Views
Quick follow up - 25/07/2011 08:31:51 PM 1357 Views
What's this Template stuff? - 25/07/2011 12:54:57 AM 1307 Views
Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 03:32:21 AM 1355 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 05:11:58 AM 1250 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 12:24:03 PM 1249 Views
I'm human as well - 25/07/2011 03:00:52 PM 1145 Views
human *NM* - 25/07/2011 01:06:31 PM 755 Views
Re: Er. OK. Well, to start things off... - 25/07/2011 02:37:34 PM 1365 Views
I'm human *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:15:50 PM 728 Views
I'm human. - 25/07/2011 09:49:57 PM 1300 Views
I agree, especially because Isaac has specifically countered this type of thinking. - 26/07/2011 02:02:30 AM 1285 Views
Speaking of sides - 26/07/2011 03:32:10 AM 1326 Views
Hm. OK, without spoilers, here's some background information - 26/07/2011 01:56:43 PM 1563 Views
Oh, I'll also note that not everything supernatural is malicious - 26/07/2011 02:06:22 PM 1303 Views
You know, I've never understood that. - 26/07/2011 07:35:47 PM 1243 Views
Maybe in French - 26/07/2011 08:05:20 PM 1248 Views
Could be. - 26/07/2011 08:51:46 PM 1242 Views
because they're french, duh! - 26/07/2011 09:06:18 PM 1253 Views
I will not dispute this opinion, as it is to my advantage . - 26/07/2011 11:24:46 PM 1289 Views
Solid, thanks. *NM* - 26/07/2011 08:05:38 PM 789 Views
I am human. *NM* - 26/07/2011 01:29:01 AM 775 Views
Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:38:31 AM 1198 Views
Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1318 Views
Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 02:20:32 PM 1277 Views
Re: Right then, some more thoughts - 27/07/2011 03:50:51 PM 1332 Views
Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:07:12 PM 1310 Views
Re: Ah, ok. Good. - 27/07/2011 06:31:27 PM 1288 Views
Hm. What are some other avenues? - 27/07/2011 02:23:36 PM 1227 Views
I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:29:05 PM 1288 Views
Re: I don't think random qquestion would be great here - 27/07/2011 03:52:33 PM 1308 Views
Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:28:18 PM 1185 Views
Re: Should we ask that? "On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books?" - 27/07/2011 06:33:32 PM 1275 Views
Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1352 Views
On a scale of 1-10, how familiar are you with the books? (CHART) - 27/07/2011 06:40:15 PM 1284 Views
I'd say I'm around 3 or 4 - 27/07/2011 08:28:36 PM 1311 Views
around three - 27/07/2011 08:29:51 PM 1146 Views
1.5 probs - 28/07/2011 01:59:29 AM 1283 Views
1 - 30/07/2011 01:07:33 AM 1266 Views
Interlude 1 - 28/07/2011 02:08:46 AM 1371 Views
THIS IS EXCITING *NM* - 28/07/2011 03:04:23 AM 855 Views
Damn. This is getting way past Mafia. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:07:26 PM 786 Views
That's exactly what I was thinking. *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:30:20 PM 777 Views
Heh, in a good way though, right? *NM* - 28/07/2011 04:38:09 PM 738 Views
yup, and its awesome - 28/07/2011 05:48:24 PM 1255 Views
Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 04:48:06 PM 1212 Views
Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1177 Views
I think we proceed as normal for the moment - 29/07/2011 02:43:50 AM 1336 Views
Interlude Conclusion - 29/07/2011 02:23:35 AM 1136 Views
Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:11:57 AM 1207 Views
Re: Just to check - 29/07/2011 03:26:39 AM 1157 Views
So... did anyone get any info? - 29/07/2011 02:02:55 PM 1150 Views
*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1320 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1182 Views
i have no idea - 30/07/2011 11:22:19 PM 1192 Views
This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 762 Views
Ahhhh. Thanks. - 30/07/2011 11:56:06 PM 1285 Views
Well, I'd like to ask a question myself. - 31/07/2011 03:23:32 AM 1206 Views
Sheridan - 31/07/2011 07:14:41 AM 1271 Views
I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 754 Views
sheriden *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:59:57 PM 703 Views
I followed Decker as well *NM* - 31/07/2011 06:15:04 PM 688 Views
Went after Decker. *NM* - 01/08/2011 12:14:13 AM 781 Views
I went after Sheridan as well. *NM* - 01/08/2011 03:44:28 PM 723 Views
Did any of you have a reason for following who you did or was it just a random choice? - 01/08/2011 01:14:13 PM 1331 Views
yeah same here - 01/08/2011 01:32:01 PM 1325 Views
I wanted to check out Decker because I knew him from the books - 01/08/2011 01:36:26 PM 1199 Views
It was mostly random - 01/08/2011 03:46:32 PM 1160 Views
I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 707 Views
So, where did you go? *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:05 PM 767 Views
Derp, for some reason I missed your response above. Ignore, please. *NM* - 01/08/2011 09:21:47 PM 720 Views
I followed Sheridan... - 01/08/2011 09:44:42 PM 1192 Views
...and did it? *NM* - 01/08/2011 11:53:38 PM 745 Views
I believe so. *NM* - 02/08/2011 04:07:58 AM 796 Views
Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 709 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1267 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1263 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1297 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1236 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1242 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1337 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1182 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1270 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1272 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1307 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1255 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1286 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1254 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1216 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1186 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1223 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1252 Views
What were they doing? - 02/08/2011 11:11:56 PM 1213 Views
i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1238 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1193 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1324 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 713 Views
Ooh. That sounds like a good basis for a semi-random lynch right there. - 01/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 1196 Views
He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1268 Views
Also though, I do agree with your conclusions to a point, - 01/08/2011 11:58:37 PM 1198 Views
Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1289 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1284 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1283 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1221 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1224 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1169 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1249 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1269 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1282 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1295 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1362 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1339 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1230 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1235 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1249 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1334 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1309 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1329 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1237 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1255 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1271 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1229 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1463 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1311 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1226 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1251 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1196 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1244 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1147 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1346 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1280 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 740 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1264 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1274 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1280 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1123 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1343 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1119 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1284 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1317 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1216 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 656 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 749 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1220 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1186 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 669 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 734 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1261 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1208 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1304 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1359 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1222 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1293 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1311 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1342 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1297 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 725 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 717 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1207 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1300 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1226 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1221 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1241 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1307 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1314 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1287 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1290 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1225 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1224 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1431 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1359 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1185 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1305 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1224 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 1745 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1365 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1382 Views

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