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How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM
I can't help but point out that you just posted all those options in detail here


Yes? I don't understand what you're accusing me of.

Let's look at some of your other falsheoods, both the outright and those by ommision.

You've claimed that there is a tangible difference to you between my suggesting a no lynch and voting for it, but you did it here

In that comment, in response to my saying that "...Insofar as the reason to vote no lynch instead of waiting for the deadline is to avoid wasting time and shedding bored players... a situation we clearly have here, you even say that I've favored it as a mod. I do, and you know and have shown that you know, that I do. That you dislike no lynches, does not change that I consider them the more pro-game solution than double-modkill or game death by inactivity. This is no secret, we've discussed many a time that even as a DF I will take risky action designed to keep people posting even if it draws eyes on me. I place game continuity above victory in individual games, and you know this, yet you lie outright when you say that in your eyes theirs a votable difference between suggesting and casting a vote to no lynch and you lie by omission when you imply I must have purely victory motives in mind for my actions. You also spin, because you've not explained how this scummy action I took would benefit me, you line up a series of rationales, all of which have improbable logic behind them, and say if all these are true then Isaac is scum, and when I countered them, you did not counter, you accused me of obfuscation.


I assume you're referring to this?

He asks "Is it out of character for me, as townie or scum, to discuss no lynch?" when the question is "Is it out of character for me, as a townie or a scum, to vote for a no-lynch?" and the real question should be "Is it antitown for me to advocate a no-lynch?"


I still don't see the lies you speak of. What is it about it that is untrue?

Let's take another example:

He asks "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to worry about third party kills and to seek out third parties?" because the real question would be "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" And the answer is of course yes. Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"? And yet that's what he did with that serial killer chase.


You accuse me of the very thing you are doing. Your counter question "Is it out of the ordinary for me, as town or scum, to deliberately not even try to find mafia?" twists my original question, because in your form, seeking a third party is equal to ignoring a threat, as though pursuing a lynch on DF 1 proves I'm a scummer because I didn't pursue DF 2 while hunting DF 1. You then say in previous games I didn't said something, putting it in quotes, but you say 'something like' and provide no reference to it. But you leave out that I never said any such thing yesterday, I said the scum were shapeshifters and would match their character claims, and thus wouldn't be locatable by our character claims table, but a SK might be, this truthful and logical comment you are aware is both you then lift out of context as proof of perfidy... a lie by ommision, you never challenge the actual comment, you never even reference it, maybe because in context it is not an indicator of guilt at all?

The actual quote:
All right, so anyway, I do unsurprisingly have plots and schemes afoot but at the moment most have not yet reached 'the proper time', so I will focus on one particular avenue, which in this case was sort of a 'SK gambit'

Going into this it seemed a safe bet that our bad guys are shapechangers and already have a legitimate ID and knew they did, likely as major characters. One of them might have lied about all 4, but probably not, they likely listed their 'real' fake identity. I'm betting everyone did.

Let us assume for the moment that any role powers someone has are appropriate to their character. Now let us assume we have a vig or SK, knowing Beet, he wouldn't assign this role to a character that followed the Comics Code, which amongst other things doesn't let good guys kill people pretty much ever. I haven't done a definitive scouring of characters yet, but the perosn who most stuck out was WF, he had:

skip analysis

Anyway, that's my first thoughts, focusing in on a probable SK/vig isn't exactly ideal but realistically killing off a SK (and arguably a vig) on day 1 is preferable to catching a single scummer, since it eliminates a whole NK. And yes, I know I'm not very objective about vigs but I'll remind everyone that they have a a horrible track record with us, BA was the first vig to whack a non-townie and that was after he tried to whack the town doc, by and large our SK's and scummers have a better track record of killing off rival scummers than the vigs have. But again, there are a handful of major characters who I think would be obvious vig material, The Punisher being the blatant example, but plent yof more obvious vig candidates beside Deadpool, who is practically the poster-child for insanely homicidal third party guy.

Anyway, that's my first thoughts on it.

And yeah, to save the eventual comment, this is exactly what I'd be saying if I was the Evil Skrull Leader, I'm not, a general desire to do away with SK's and cultists is a trait I possess both when town and DF.


Now, you would attempt on day 1, and later today as well, to say that it was a sign of my guilt that I'd suggest such a path, yet as I pointed out, and you never rebutted, that claim was based off an underlying assumption I would have to do it without knowing it was a scummer tell, the original accusation puts the claim to bed, as the bolded text indicates. So I accidentally dropped proof I was scummer in the very same message I outright say it could be seen that way. That makes no sense, and yet by accusing me from a set off comments in which it was impossible to miss my saying that, you once again lift something clearly out of context in a fashion that can not be an accident. "Knowingly Presenting False Evidence" is, some might say, not particularly pro-town


Again, I have no idea what you're trying to say, and even less of an idea where I'm supposed to have lied in this. It looks like you're saying "I openly admitted that my scummy behaviour was scummy, therefore I can't be scum" but that's such a ludicrous idea I have to assume I'm incorrect. But what are you saying?

Or are you suggesting that when I said that when I said "Look at previous games, have you even seen Isaac say something to the effect of "I don't think we should will find mafia today, nor do I think we should even try"?" I meant that as a reference to this comment of yours? It wasn't, it was merely a figure of speech to represent what your actions told us in English. If I'd wanted to quote you, I would have quoted you.

Let's go to your next one, in your original accusations on me that caused this avalanche:

He says "Led a lynch on an innocent townie? BlackAdder, Check." and tries to equate this with his serial killer hunt, leaving out that they are completely different - in BlackAdder's case, he was trying to catch a ninja and failed. In White Flame's case, he was not trying to find a Skrull and succeeded in not finding one. He tries to compare killing a townie by mistake to killing a townie by intent.


Again, utter word game, and real ironic when your whole point is to accuse me of doing that. In BlackAdders case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed. In WF's case, I was trying to find a scummer and failed, SK's a scummers. You ignore again the inconvenient truth that I'd already told everyone that going for a SK was not ideal but we had a decent lead and a SK is more dangeorus than a single scummer. Again, you use a flawed argument that translates as "This cop is clearly dirty and on the take because he ran past someone who was trying to steal a car while pursuing a murderer" it sounds reasonable to people only because there's a tag at the end 'Someone shot the fleeing murderer, ending the day, and he turned out to be innocent, it was not possible to go back for the car thief' and leaves out something really vital, I didn't run past someone stealing a car, I ran past when someone yelled 'He's stealing my car' and there was no sign of who 'he' was.


Again, I don't get the lie. Incidentally, you might have noticed that even though I said I found it suspicious and scummy, I did agree with the rationale behind the serial killer hunt. You might then wonder why I'm bringing it up as evidence now. You might wonder why I didn't press for it at the beginning of the Day. Except of course that it's missing the blatantly obvious. I didn't go for the lynch until you repeated your scummy behaviour. Anyone can do something that looks scummy. But when you're doing it consistently, that's when it becomes evidence. I wouldn't be able to get you lynched on either the sk hunt or the no-lynch individually, which is probably why you try disassociating them, but together they demonstrate a pattern, and that pattern reveals your motivations, and those motivations are to not get mafia killed.

And at the end, that's all there is to it. That's why you're going to hang. And I still don't know where I lied.

Next:
He asks irrelevant questions like "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to accuse someone on day 1?" or "Is it out of ordinary for me, as town or scum, to drop a lynch I feel is not viable?" in an attempt to get people to get in an agreeable position. After all, it is perfectly accurate to say that these are not abnormal behaviours, nor are they anti-town, and he hopes that people will use them to get a good impression of him and forget what the real point was.


No supporting evidence of that claim, you just say 'irrelevant' and bypass it, but its pretty relevant and you know it. You use both the day 1 vote and the day 1 non-vote for ? as evidence against me originally, yet when I point outthat is normal, instead of ceding the point as a flaw in your original accusation, you ignore that it was part of your accusation and accuse me of obfuscation by pointing it out.


Okay, stop. Not only is that not a lie from me, it's a lie from you. It is irrelevant. The equivalent of being accused of murder and saying "I fed my cat yesterday, is that murder?" It is completely and entirely irrelevant. Nobody said you were scum because you "accused somebody on day 1". And yet you try to use that as a defence. Nobody accused you of being scum for "dropping a lynch you felt was not viable" and yet you try to use that as a defence. And so on. It's blatant misdirection, and I won't have you calling me a liar because I called you out on it.

Next:
Isaac writes in an attempt to obfuscate the issue. The facts are plain and simple: in the span of two days, Isaac has deliberately voted to protect the mafia from lynching.


In a post that is loaded with spin and obfuscation, you accuse me of doing it the whole while, then say I deliberately voted to protect the mafia. Yet your sole evidence of such a vote is that I went after a probable SK, needless to say, that's hardly anti-town, but certainly no more anti-town then everyone who voted for the lynch without pursuing other leads. That's a far more obvious scummer tell, I tell people I don't think the lynch is viable anymore on day 1 and we need to pursue other leads, I suggest some, and WF gets whacked in a few hours. You avoid all mention of that aspect of things repeatedly, that an avalanche vote off my suggestion we pursue other routes is not only bizarre, but utterly smashes the 'SK as distraction' concept.


Of course I avoid mention of that, the last thing this game needs is for people to lose focus. I did not always, however. Before you became the sole subject of attention, you will recall that I did say this after all. I imagine if you were me, you'd be calling that a lie?

Seriously, this entire post is disappointing. You can't put up a sign saying "Fanatic-Templar caught in a(n almost) lie!" and then not give a show. Barring that one bit above, this was more confusing that outraging. I think you might be panicking.
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RAFO Mafia 19: Superlative Crisis! ISSUE TWO: BLACK MAGIC- WHOA, MAN! - 03/11/2010 04:59:59 AM 2593 Views
Voting record- Isaac has been lynched - 03/11/2010 05:02:04 AM 877 Views
I see two avenues to discuss here - 03/11/2010 11:41:14 AM 816 Views
I was thinking about number 1. - 03/11/2010 10:00:57 PM 827 Views
Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 04/11/2010 01:15:44 AM 840 Views
Re: Same, it's a promising possible lead but... - 05/11/2010 08:04:09 PM 864 Views
Regarding 2, and let me suggets a 3 - 04/11/2010 02:30:41 AM 884 Views
Maybe he did that thing where he pulled all actions to himself. - 04/11/2010 03:08:40 AM 900 Views
Hmmm - 04/11/2010 08:34:34 PM 1312 Views
Me. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:35:09 PM 490 Views
Re: Hmmm - 05/11/2010 08:11:24 PM 949 Views
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I, personally, agree with Isaac so here goes. - 04/11/2010 11:33:07 PM 808 Views
O.......K.......... - 05/11/2010 11:43:14 PM 785 Views
Did Fist use his power last Night? - 06/11/2010 03:41:05 AM 823 Views
It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 04:53:19 AM 811 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 05:30:00 PM 795 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 06/11/2010 07:15:11 PM 845 Views
Well. - 06/11/2010 07:40:33 PM 774 Views
LOL - 07/11/2010 03:10:03 AM 843 Views
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Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 08:18:16 AM 893 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 03:38:37 PM 846 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 882 Views
Huh, well Fox straight up told us his Mason group was a 3rd Fraction on Night 1 - 11/11/2010 12:55:50 AM 845 Views
Yeah that was humorous to watch - 11/11/2010 04:16:34 AM 873 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 06:16:29 PM 902 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 07:16:20 PM 837 Views
Re: It's one of three plausible explanations for his death - 07/11/2010 09:29:12 PM 919 Views
Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 07:35:39 AM 885 Views
Re: Right. One last thing then. - 08/11/2010 10:24:06 AM 853 Views
I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 01:04:34 AM 811 Views
Re: I am about 95% sure that WF targeted me last Night. - 11/11/2010 02:23:14 AM 962 Views
- 11/11/2010 02:25:58 AM 663 Views
Of course, I meant Fist. - 11/11/2010 02:30:10 AM 831 Views
Interesting. - 11/11/2010 02:25:07 AM 861 Views
It's certainly possible. - 11/11/2010 02:39:00 AM 851 Views
Now I'm curious - 11/11/2010 03:33:46 AM 891 Views
Presumably because I'm not trying to get her lynched. - 11/11/2010 03:53:54 AM 890 Views
Yeah, this basically. - 11/11/2010 04:02:47 AM 860 Views
A lot of recent games have been role-heavy. - 11/11/2010 09:12:42 PM 887 Views
I actually don't know. - 06/11/2010 11:43:33 AM 820 Views
Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 05:41:04 AM 885 Views
Re: Yeah, I'm going with that #3 there. - 04/11/2010 04:18:17 PM 904 Views
a scummer got caught on day one in the tower game - 04/11/2010 06:42:15 PM 871 Views
also there was that time someone said they saw a black light instead of white - 04/11/2010 07:52:41 PM 876 Views
That was Hobo in DK's crossover game. *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:16:07 PM 475 Views
You know we could just forget about that. I wouldn't complain. *NM* - 05/11/2010 08:35:03 PM 519 Views
Sorry, not likely. *NM* - 05/11/2010 09:58:36 PM 552 Views
Hypocop? *NM* - 03/11/2010 03:20:17 PM 527 Views
Sure. Isaac = Skrull. *NM* - 04/11/2010 05:42:45 AM 444 Views
? = hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 09:40:40 AM 478 Views
Bergioyn - Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 12:57:53 PM 461 Views
Isaac - skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 01:05:38 PM 480 Views
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Ranagrande = hero. *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:55:14 PM 596 Views
Hobo - Innocent + read this before you HC if you haven't already - 04/11/2010 08:25:26 PM 809 Views
On which to pick for oddballs - 04/11/2010 08:28:25 PM 766 Views
Darth Katie-Skrull *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:39:00 PM 515 Views
Fox - hero *NM* - 04/11/2010 08:46:07 PM 427 Views
I SPLOG'd Darth_Katie and found her not Skrull. *NM* - 05/11/2010 07:50:35 PM 495 Views
Hypocop (Table) - 04/11/2010 06:02:51 AM 791 Views
Before I forget RBIRL - 04/11/2010 04:19:20 PM 842 Views
still RBIRL - 05/11/2010 08:13:35 PM 813 Views
still here! - 06/11/2010 06:35:44 PM 746 Views
RBIRL - exams ... - 08/11/2010 12:24:06 AM 764 Views
After Tuesday I will be back in full force. *NM* - 11/11/2010 05:20:49 PM 483 Views
RBIRL *NM* - 09/11/2010 03:33:18 PM 440 Views
I'm here. - 09/11/2010 04:51:58 PM 857 Views
So help me I will spoil the entirety of ToM, people! (not just yet, though) - 10/11/2010 02:51:46 AM 759 Views
Ahhhhh!! No! - 10/11/2010 04:38:51 AM 775 Views
i'm awake *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:48:06 AM 491 Views
I'm pretty sure if you do, you'll be lynched. *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:19:43 PM 492 Views
Or worse. - 10/11/2010 10:51:52 PM 796 Views
I can't be lynched! Bwahahah *NM* - 10/11/2010 11:38:04 PM 523 Views
but lynching the mod is fun! - 11/11/2010 03:35:51 AM 813 Views
I'm still here, btw. - 11/11/2010 09:32:46 AM 806 Views
I'm not reading ToM - 12/11/2010 02:11:48 AM 801 Views
i'm not either - 12/11/2010 10:03:44 AM 773 Views
You know, you guys are free to discuss things on your own. - 12/11/2010 07:05:51 PM 745 Views
Vote: No Lynch - 13/11/2010 12:24:43 AM 863 Views
We can do that? - 13/11/2010 12:50:57 AM 783 Views
Vote: No lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:20 AM 444 Views
Sure, I'll allow Vote: No Lynch *NM* - 13/11/2010 12:51:56 AM 427 Views
I am very much opposed to this idea - 13/11/2010 02:04:27 PM 784 Views
I do agree with you... - 13/11/2010 05:36:38 PM 753 Views
Then offer an alternative - 13/11/2010 11:10:42 PM 834 Views
Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:03:35 AM 766 Views
Re: Why is an inactive likely to be a townie? - 14/11/2010 04:21:12 AM 849 Views
I had no RBIRL because my computer died. - 14/11/2010 06:52:56 AM 744 Views
Ah, I see you did unvote. Very well. I still got my eye on you. *NM* - 14/11/2010 06:55:30 AM 430 Views
LOL - I guess this is also my informal defense - 14/11/2010 08:52:56 AM 834 Views
Watch the difference between what he says and what he is accused of. - 14/11/2010 07:08:08 PM 723 Views
These are very good points. *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:35:56 PM 441 Views
Yes. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 08:38:38 PM 499 Views
Yup. Unvote: No lynch. Vote Isaac *NM* - 14/11/2010 10:06:19 PM 533 Views
After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:42:32 PM 790 Views
Re: After this whole argument I've had with FT... - 13/11/2010 11:53:56 PM 824 Views
People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 03:43:14 AM 766 Views
Re: People who vote for totally random lynches don't deserve to win - 14/11/2010 02:23:04 PM 939 Views
I'm completely on F-T's side of this debate. - 14/11/2010 03:56:32 AM 802 Views
Vote: Isaac - 13/11/2010 11:58:56 PM 878 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 03:02:15 AM 783 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 04:02:30 AM 867 Views
What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 04:10:12 AM 896 Views
Re: What was scummy? - 14/11/2010 05:41:44 AM 814 Views
Extrmely thin - 14/11/2010 06:05:32 AM 970 Views
You're kidding, right? - 14/11/2010 06:44:50 AM 776 Views
Actually... - 14/11/2010 06:55:02 AM 873 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:44:33 AM 828 Views
I'm saying that no, it isn't quite anti-town... - 14/11/2010 04:34:59 PM 634 Views
A SK hurts both the Mafia and the Town - 14/11/2010 05:38:29 PM 802 Views
Re: Actually... - 14/11/2010 07:00:35 PM 816 Views
I must say, I'm a little suspicious of Isaac now. - 14/11/2010 07:03:46 PM 841 Views
Fine. - 14/11/2010 07:10:19 PM 831 Views
Re: Fine. - 14/11/2010 08:07:02 PM 743 Views
Forget my earlier message. Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 08:35:49 PM 880 Views
Vote: Isaac - 14/11/2010 10:04:53 PM 722 Views
I think he is at L-1 now. - 14/11/2010 11:02:33 PM 814 Views
Hmmm - 14/11/2010 11:05:08 PM 864 Views
Did you guys just blitz me? - 14/11/2010 11:35:58 PM 858 Views
Your not hammered yet are you? - 14/11/2010 11:46:29 PM 798 Views
I'm potentially alive on a technicality - 15/11/2010 12:02:36 AM 714 Views
Why don't you go ahead and claim then? - 15/11/2010 12:11:03 AM 804 Views
Sure - 15/11/2010 12:34:34 AM 775 Views
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... - 15/11/2010 02:13:23 AM 876 Views
Well, let me shed a bit more light - 15/11/2010 04:22:36 AM 837 Views
Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 16/11/2010 09:26:09 PM 514 Views
Oh come one really? *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:06:56 AM 493 Views
Come on. That said come on not one....sigh... *NM* - 15/11/2010 02:07:46 AM 449 Views
Hey, I'm hanging on by my fingertips here - 15/11/2010 02:33:03 AM 736 Views
I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:25:46 AM 784 Views
Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:32:44 AM 793 Views
Re: Also, I must confess... - 15/11/2010 01:58:26 AM 923 Views
Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:22:06 AM 732 Views
Re: Yes, I would expect so. - 15/11/2010 02:35:49 AM 840 Views
Oh man, was that game embarrassing. - 15/11/2010 03:24:16 AM 897 Views
Yeah, not my best performance either *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:56:09 AM 425 Views
Re: I think so. - 15/11/2010 01:46:38 AM 727 Views
Eh, I guess I could. - 15/11/2010 02:24:23 AM 802 Views
I'll try to help Isaac out a bit here. - 15/11/2010 01:11:11 PM 688 Views
Thanks, and a question too - 15/11/2010 01:30:17 PM 736 Views
Answer's no. *NM* - 15/11/2010 01:42:56 PM 454 Views
All right, thanks - 15/11/2010 02:17:27 PM 882 Views
Well, I'll unvote if the third mason comes forward too. *NM* - 15/11/2010 03:30:36 PM 471 Views
I'm the third member. *NM* - 15/11/2010 07:04:24 PM 419 Views
Okay. Unvote: Isaac *NM* - 15/11/2010 09:36:19 PM 445 Views
Tangential side post - 15/11/2010 02:00:54 PM 857 Views
Jeez, when it rains, it pours - 15/11/2010 10:34:54 PM 700 Views
OK, the ruling: - 15/11/2010 11:26:42 PM 775 Views
I also unvoted a while back. - 16/11/2010 12:57:07 AM 809 Views
OK Isaac - 15/11/2010 11:14:45 PM 758 Views
Okay, first lets do something else - 16/11/2010 01:24:25 AM 836 Views
I see two thematic options - 16/11/2010 02:22:00 AM 856 Views
My Defense Posts - 16/11/2010 04:16:41 AM 770 Views
Defense A: The Fantastic Four - 16/11/2010 04:31:11 AM 792 Views
Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 05:29:14 AM 784 Views
Re: Some supporting evidence - 16/11/2010 11:35:31 PM 801 Views
Defense B: The Numbers Game - 16/11/2010 04:36:59 AM 797 Views
"What motive would a scummer have"? - 16/11/2010 05:56:04 PM 772 Views
Without any further questions though? - 16/11/2010 11:51:42 PM 825 Views
If you see an avalanche coming, you hop on board (NOT a metaphor). - 17/11/2010 12:12:31 AM 757 Views
Good point. - 17/11/2010 01:29:11 AM 841 Views
Re: "What motive would a scummer have"? - 17/11/2010 02:48:35 AM 827 Views
I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 12:58:45 AM 805 Views
Re: I think boredom might be a large factor as well - 17/11/2010 03:16:12 AM 760 Views
I said before I have no real reason to trust him - 17/11/2010 01:13:23 PM 790 Views
Defense C: The Intro Flavor - 16/11/2010 04:41:31 AM 906 Views
Eh ... - 16/11/2010 10:00:21 PM 751 Views
Re: Eh ... - 17/11/2010 02:33:27 AM 815 Views
Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 03:54:37 AM 793 Views
Re: Yes, well when the clues are so easily misinterpreted - 17/11/2010 04:56:51 AM 756 Views
We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 07:01:22 AM 857 Views
Re: We'll take a look at that in turn, but first... - 16/11/2010 01:40:21 PM 753 Views
Yes, that was it. - 16/11/2010 09:05:04 PM 781 Views
Re: Yes, that was it. - 17/11/2010 02:55:58 AM 801 Views
Not at all. - 17/11/2010 03:04:50 AM 808 Views
Well, that's a borderline lie - 17/11/2010 04:29:47 AM 860 Views
How do you figure? - 17/11/2010 05:46:37 AM 758 Views
I'd say its pretty pertinent to my defense - 17/11/2010 06:49:20 AM 748 Views
Okay ??? - 17/11/2010 06:56:06 AM 731 Views
All right, fair enough. - 17/11/2010 07:19:37 AM 874 Views
Thanks for whakcing me before going to bed - 17/11/2010 07:39:58 AM 776 Views
By the way, I'd appreciate if no one had hammer till FT has a chance to reply and vice-versa - 17/11/2010 07:46:18 AM 768 Views
Yeah, I'm pretty much ready to vote for you. - 17/11/2010 06:38:50 PM 786 Views
Try this option - 17/11/2010 08:03:25 AM 763 Views
There are a lot of bizarre roles in this game. - 17/11/2010 06:35:24 PM 823 Views
Also can't help but point out - 17/11/2010 08:15:51 AM 899 Views
Yeah, this is completely expected. - 17/11/2010 06:49:03 PM 798 Views
I have evidence in favor of and yet against F-T's claim. Take it as you will. - 17/11/2010 07:18:35 PM 847 Views
Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:20:58 PM 850 Views
Re: Slight EBWOP - 17/11/2010 07:24:34 PM 743 Views
Eh? - 17/11/2010 07:30:42 PM 813 Views
Oh, I get ya - 17/11/2010 07:36:44 PM 750 Views
I did not know I had been tracked. - 17/11/2010 07:44:00 PM 777 Views
Uh, that doesn't make a lot of sense - 17/11/2010 07:22:59 PM 794 Views
That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 07:26:34 PM 765 Views
This discussion should probably extend a bit - Unvote *NM* - 17/11/2010 07:27:16 PM 542 Views
Re: That's fair. Sanity can actually be called into question now. - 17/11/2010 08:01:20 PM 846 Views
Actually that sounds a good plan - 17/11/2010 08:06:50 PM 753 Views
Glad to hear you agree with yourself - 17/11/2010 08:14:42 PM 855 Views
You've already claimed. - 17/11/2010 08:43:43 PM 872 Views
Don't want a claim, not to claim. - 17/11/2010 08:50:29 PM 763 Views
More talking about encryption than reveal - 17/11/2010 09:08:58 PM 828 Views
I don't think so. - 17/11/2010 08:09:22 PM 783 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 17/11/2010 08:52:49 PM 437 Views
All right then. - 17/11/2010 12:27:49 AM 865 Views
Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 12:45:26 AM 760 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 02:05:03 AM 797 Views
Re: Vote: Isaac - 17/11/2010 03:12:21 AM 869 Views
Oh and also, just to let you all know - 17/11/2010 01:03:30 AM 780 Views
:/ Wanna mention this before I forget. Little niggling that's been bugging me. - 17/11/2010 03:03:27 AM 774 Views
Hah. I'd forgotten about that. - 17/11/2010 03:35:21 AM 821 Views
Aaand... my suspicions of you are cleared. *NM* - 17/11/2010 03:42:06 AM 520 Views
Ah yes, I noticed that as well - 17/11/2010 04:08:15 AM 765 Views
I just caught that - 17/11/2010 04:53:16 AM 884 Views
No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:29:36 AM 800 Views
Re: No, I don't mean Cop. - 17/11/2010 05:34:46 AM 813 Views
Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 05:39:56 AM 773 Views
Re: Yeah, this I'm keeping for tomorrow. - 17/11/2010 06:52:39 AM 648 Views
I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 06:30:26 PM 856 Views
Re: I trust him because of the way he's been acting. - 17/11/2010 07:09:14 PM 861 Views
Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:28:31 PM 868 Views
Re: Complete sidetrack. - 17/11/2010 07:33:51 PM 753 Views
Ask Katie. - 17/11/2010 08:00:16 PM 847 Views
My tenuous grasp of the English language. - 17/11/2010 08:47:23 PM 761 Views
Well this has all been very interesting. - 17/11/2010 04:48:20 PM 743 Views
In the interests of honesty, now would probably be a good time to mention ... - 17/11/2010 09:22:14 PM 791 Views
What the balls? - 17/11/2010 09:52:04 PM 799 Views
My role is a hybrid ... - 17/11/2010 10:07:39 PM 715 Views
Aye. What else can Hawkeye do? - 17/11/2010 10:10:46 PM 809 Views
Re: What the balls? - 17/11/2010 10:17:00 PM 812 Views
RBIRL - 17/11/2010 10:36:13 PM 850 Views
Quick note- make sure your vote is counted - 18/11/2010 01:09:22 AM 793 Views
I unvoted. - 18/11/2010 01:39:20 AM 824 Views
I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 02:02:03 PM 758 Views
You're right, and I'm tired of waiting. - 18/11/2010 03:11:30 PM 951 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 18/11/2010 03:18:50 PM 730 Views
Re: I still only see one way for this day to end - 19/11/2010 03:48:52 PM 775 Views
Your accusation on ? seems a little unrealistic - 19/11/2010 06:34:54 PM 770 Views
I'd also like to point out that we know nothing about you - 18/11/2010 03:37:08 PM 748 Views
i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:45:10 PM 794 Views
Re: i don't know much about comics but - 18/11/2010 05:49:54 PM 740 Views
They're also Marvel characters - 18/11/2010 06:30:11 PM 802 Views
LOL, duly noted - 18/11/2010 06:48:08 PM 817 Views
So what? So was Iron Man, kinda. *NM* - 18/11/2010 06:54:37 PM 458 Views
Well, many have been - 18/11/2010 07:10:00 PM 818 Views
Beast is really surprisingly un-beastly. - 18/11/2010 06:28:15 PM 825 Views
Sure - 18/11/2010 06:42:01 PM 806 Views
I'm just saying, you're jumping to conclusions. - 18/11/2010 06:50:44 PM 739 Views
I'm hardly alone in that - 18/11/2010 07:05:56 PM 793 Views
No, I think I'll leave it at that for now. - 19/11/2010 02:04:09 PM 769 Views
Hello All - 20/11/2010 12:40:13 AM 834 Views
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that - 20/11/2010 12:13:12 PM 742 Views
Yikes! - 20/11/2010 05:45:36 PM 767 Views
Here's where I stand now - 20/11/2010 12:18:36 PM 811 Views
Yeah, I pretty much agree with Fox. - 20/11/2010 12:42:01 PM 892 Views
I'll be gone this weekend. *NM* - 20/11/2010 06:14:00 PM 498 Views
I don't know what to do. - 20/11/2010 09:30:04 PM 768 Views
Here! here! - 22/11/2010 12:07:31 AM 824 Views
Alright, to hell with this. Let's test F-T's sanity. Vote: Isaac *NM* - 21/11/2010 08:29:53 PM 500 Views
Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 09:58:18 PM 782 Views
OK, here's a question for beet: - 21/11/2010 10:37:08 PM 774 Views
You're not suggesting we lynch F-T instead of Isaac, are you? - 21/11/2010 11:17:19 PM 780 Views
But we do get information - 22/11/2010 12:17:20 AM 803 Views
<-- Btw, first time I got the hammer vote. My life is now complete. *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:20:53 AM 481 Views
Well, congrats *NM* - 22/11/2010 12:32:34 AM 510 Views
Since this is a first for both of us... - 22/11/2010 12:35:29 AM 776 Views
You gave us a good run. - 22/11/2010 03:45:57 AM 774 Views
Yeah, it was a good siege - 22/11/2010 04:10:01 AM 779 Views
Can you explain this LyLo again? - 21/11/2010 11:32:10 PM 880 Views
It's a reasonable possibility - 22/11/2010 12:31:00 AM 765 Views
Re: Ah, the frustration vote, normally my best friend - 21/11/2010 11:45:07 PM 905 Views
Isaac wonders how he could be lynched without scum involvement... - 22/11/2010 12:00:31 AM 742 Views
Well, his "allies" openly iclude me and Hobo - 22/11/2010 12:19:20 AM 830 Views
Isaac has been lynched! - 22/11/2010 03:10:01 AM 691 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 03:39:53 AM 430 Views
I can't help but feel a silver bullet would have been appropriate - 22/11/2010 04:11:13 AM 675 Views
I might just mount your head on my wall . - 22/11/2010 05:09:45 AM 865 Views
I consider myself an integral part in this group. - 22/11/2010 05:27:12 AM 846 Views
Ooh, what do I get? *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:03:07 AM 429 Views
His silver tongue *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:09:22 AM 474 Views
*NM* - 22/11/2010 06:45:27 AM 417 Views
- 22/11/2010 04:24:44 AM 753 Views
So you killed him while I was a sleep? I wanted to hammer.... - 22/11/2010 07:55:41 AM 753 Views
I may have to ignore my gut from now on. *NM* - 22/11/2010 06:39:48 PM 492 Views
Woohoo! Classes are cancelled!! - 23/11/2010 06:44:12 PM 798 Views

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