Any lynch will involve more than half the town, with a lot of information thrown out by the people pressing or opposing the lynch. This can be used to divine those players' intentions.
With a night kill, there is no information. We don't even know if the person was killed by a vigilante, a serial killer, the mafia, or someone else.
With a night kill, there is no information. We don't even know if the person was killed by a vigilante, a serial killer, the mafia, or someone else.
With a vig night 1 kill, we tend to assume TANK-F, but if it doesn't happen till night 2, a later vig claim is more believable.
Plus of course there's the judgement factor, a lot of people who become firmly convinced someone is a DF on day 1 are in orbit, because typically if there was real evidence for it they would have been lynched. Now, a vig would have had a good case to whack Artsapat, for instance, or pretty much any runner up for lynch where the person who got lynched didn't basically prove the runner up innocent. There's certainly cases where a night 1 vig kill is in order, I just tend not to expect better than random from them.
Better for them not to kill, but any of them should ask - especially before a night 1 kill - 'If this person is a town, can I explain my action better than as a hunch to the other townies?'
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive
26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM
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Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive
26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM
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I as well was attacked
26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM
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A beast? That's interesting
26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM
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If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM*
26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM
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Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info
26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM
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Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo.
27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM
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Yes, it was a beast
26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM
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Was it a werewolf?
26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM
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No evidence to suggest it was...
26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM
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Re: No evidence to suggest it was...
26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM
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I know how I was saved
27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM
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Re: I know how I was saved
27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM
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A few ideas
27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM
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Re: A few ideas
27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM
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So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday
26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM
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Alright, questions.
26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM
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You forgot HDG *NM*
26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM
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Which is.... *NM*
27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM
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Going back to yesterday
26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM
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I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac
26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM
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damn
26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM
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Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM*
27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM
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EBWOP - Elaboration.
27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM
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FINE. FINE. FINE
27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM
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Whyyyyyyyyyy
27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM
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This is pretty much what I expected...
27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM
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I'm inclined to believe his claim
27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM
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Well, he could be a threat as a pretty probable pro-town player, if we accept his claim.
28/06/2010 06:00:32 AM
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Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts.
27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM
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I hadn't really thought of that
27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM
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Short post, with elaboration to come later.
27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM
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Okay, elaboration time.
27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM
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Re: Okay, elaboration time.
28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM
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Now, what I want to know.
28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM
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Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt
28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM
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You're not seeing my point.
28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM
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Re: You're not seeing my point.
28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM
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Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now.
28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM
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It's also possible that there are multiple characters from the same setting. *NM*
28/06/2010 08:58:35 PM
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So, where'd the night kill go?
28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM
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You know, I find that reaction a bit odd, and it adds to my suspicion of Isaac
28/06/2010 10:39:09 PM
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That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM
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Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them
29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM
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Hypocop Table!
27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM
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Staying Alive indeed
28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM
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Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie
28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM
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Two things:
28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM
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For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though.
28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM
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Also
28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM
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Yunalesca - innocent *NM*
28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM
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EBWOP - Why can't I post ANYthing in the right place? Just disregard, I'll repost in the Table *NM*
28/06/2010 01:28:10 PM
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Voting record.
28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM
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And according to ranagrande, the VNTL was just 7, with Amys, Blaine, Hobo, and Talic all inactive. *NM*
28/06/2010 10:17:25 PM
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you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM*
28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM
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And you've only realized that now?
28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM
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read my posts carefully
28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM
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Okay, let's do that
29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM
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I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM
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Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones
29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM
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i confessed to being the beast *NM*
29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM
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Well, that... doesn't sound smart.
29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM
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I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched.
29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM
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I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM*
29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM
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Sorry. I've been so busy.
30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
30/06/2010 12:57:48 AM
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Re: Sorry. I've been so busy.
30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM
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Then please repeat it for me.
30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM
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I always thought it was
30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM
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Re: I always thought it was
30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM
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I didn't think there was anything that made Napoleon stand out Yesterday either.
30/06/2010 04:32:25 AM
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That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext...
30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM
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I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill
30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM
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Because it isn't like a lynch at all.
30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM
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There's a second half to that too
30/06/2010 07:12:37 AM
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the quiet ones...
01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM
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Some advice
01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM
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You're probably right...
01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM
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This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon.
02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM
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Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM*
29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM
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Holy crap it does, my account has been bugged for a little bit now and wouldnt post anything =/
29/06/2010 07:40:28 PM
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So, Yuna. What's your game?
30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM
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*laughs*
30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM
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Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy
30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM
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Let me just say this: If she is a Jester...
30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM
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I agree
30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM
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Screw the Jesters.
30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM
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It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them
30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM
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Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims
30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM
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I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM
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Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess
01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM
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Jester's are awful. They ruin the game.
01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM
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That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM*
02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM
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I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts
. *NM*
02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM
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I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to.
02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM
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Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM*
02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM
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unfortunatly im RBIRL
01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM
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It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so
01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM
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Testing... (Table)
01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM
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Anyone can do that?
01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM
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Re: Anyone can do that?
01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM
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hmm
01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM
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Oh, you have to get a membership
01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM
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Re: Oh, you have to get a membership
01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM
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I am SO cheap.
01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM
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I donated to the site
02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM
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Darth_Katie has been elected Chair
01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM
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So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day?
03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM
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I think we might've already?
03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM
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I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa
03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM
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03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM
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Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling
03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM
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.....? *NM*
03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM
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Someone must have blocked her vote
03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM
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Could be the other way 'round...
03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM
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Re: Could be the other way 'round...
03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM
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Re:
03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM
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Maybe
03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM
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Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table
03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM
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Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense
04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM
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She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM
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Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL.
04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM
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Well, actually kill her.
04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM
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Re: Well, actually kill her.
04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM
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That might do it
04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM
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Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM*
04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM
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I definitely don't want to vote her
04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM
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Agreed...
04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM
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Explain that
04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM
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*cackles wickedly*
06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM
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For the record, not really supposed to post in this thread after the Day's over.
*NM*
06/07/2010 04:48:29 AM
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Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM
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Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell.
04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM
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Does it really matter if she wins?
04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM
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It means we waste a lynch though.
04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM
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You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her
04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM
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Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me.
04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM
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If it's a vote steal, rather than a block...
04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM
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I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction.
04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM
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Don't know if that would work...
04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM
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It's Artsapat, has to be
04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM
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I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man
04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM
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On the other hand, that seems like such a scummy thing to do, steal somebody's vote. *NM*
04/07/2010 03:29:55 PM
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That was my thought also,
04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM
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Re: That was my thought also,
04/07/2010 06:16:34 PM
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04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM
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Actually
05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM
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