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There's a second half to that too Isaac Send a noteboard - 30/06/2010 07:12:37 AM
Any lynch will involve more than half the town, with a lot of information thrown out by the people pressing or opposing the lynch. This can be used to divine those players' intentions.

With a night kill, there is no information. We don't even know if the person was killed by a vigilante, a serial killer, the mafia, or someone else.


With a vig night 1 kill, we tend to assume TANK-F, but if it doesn't happen till night 2, a later vig claim is more believable.

Plus of course there's the judgement factor, a lot of people who become firmly convinced someone is a DF on day 1 are in orbit, because typically if there was real evidence for it they would have been lynched. Now, a vig would have had a good case to whack Artsapat, for instance, or pretty much any runner up for lynch where the person who got lynched didn't basically prove the runner up innocent. There's certainly cases where a night 1 vig kill is in order, I just tend not to expect better than random from them.

Better for them not to kill, but any of them should ask - especially before a night 1 kill - 'If this person is a town, can I explain my action better than as a hunch to the other townies?'
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive - 26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM 1988 Views
Vote Table - 26/06/2010 07:40:39 AM 977 Views
Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM 975 Views
Re: Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 04:20:48 PM 950 Views
I was poisoned. - 26/06/2010 04:33:50 PM 1026 Views
Yeah, that's interesting. - 26/06/2010 06:04:45 PM 942 Views
I as well was attacked - 26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM 1051 Views
A beast? That's interesting - 26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM 955 Views
If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM* - 26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM 527 Views
Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info - 26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM 995 Views
Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo. - 27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM 1005 Views
I'll just say one thing - 28/06/2010 12:01:32 AM 897 Views
Well, I should pay attention. - 28/06/2010 04:48:18 AM 905 Views
Yes, it was a beast - 26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM 948 Views
Was it a werewolf? - 26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM 998 Views
No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM 1002 Views
Re: No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM 993 Views
I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM 1039 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM 925 Views
A few ideas - 27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM 968 Views
Re: A few ideas - 27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM 916 Views
Hmm, why is that? - 27/06/2010 02:23:31 AM 979 Views
That BP is usually town? - 27/06/2010 03:13:11 AM 910 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:12:32 AM 961 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:30:29 AM 848 Views
So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday - 26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM 906 Views
Alright, questions. - 26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM 985 Views
You forgot HDG *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM 521 Views
Which is.... *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM 565 Views
Heroic Do Gooder *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:56:21 AM 557 Views
Yes *NM* - 27/06/2010 03:01:59 PM 538 Views
Sorry guys, but life is suddenly way busy. - 26/06/2010 09:08:19 PM 905 Views
We'll miss you - 27/06/2010 03:06:27 PM 854 Views
Going back to yesterday - 26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM 925 Views
I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac - 26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM 955 Views
damn - 26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM 1006 Views
Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM* - 27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM 482 Views
EBWOP - Elaboration. - 27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM 990 Views
FINE. FINE. FINE - 27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM 946 Views
Whyyyyyyyyyy - 27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM 906 Views
This is pretty much what I expected... - 27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM 911 Views
I'm inclined to believe his claim - 27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM 987 Views
Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts. - 27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM 940 Views
I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM 971 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:08:58 AM 984 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:45:35 AM 901 Views
That's right! You're alive again! DUDE, I am so annoyed at you! - 27/06/2010 07:22:20 AM 890 Views
Short post, with elaboration to come later. - 27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM 944 Views
Okay, elaboration time. - 27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM 945 Views
Hmm, that is a pretty bold accusation - 27/06/2010 11:55:23 PM 880 Views
Re: Okay, elaboration time. - 28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM 864 Views
Now, what I want to know. - 28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM 875 Views
Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt - 28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM 871 Views
You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM 773 Views
Re: You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM 918 Views
Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now. - 28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM 880 Views
Then let's return to Artsapat for now - 28/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 876 Views
So, where'd the night kill go? - 28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM 831 Views
That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM 918 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM 878 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM 942 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM 876 Views
Hypocop Table! - 27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM 917 Views
I found F-T to be Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 05:37:19 PM 527 Views
i found Amys to be Guilty *NM* - 27/06/2010 06:20:15 PM 566 Views
I found myself to be roleblocked, so... yeah. *NM* - 27/06/2010 08:31:37 PM 560 Views
F-T; Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 11:57:15 PM 492 Views
Beetnemesis innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:29:18 AM 438 Views
Isaac- innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:19:00 AM 516 Views
Napoleon - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:01 AM 484 Views
I found I was dead. *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:39 AM 487 Views
Are you saying you didn't get Blaine's role until dawn? *NM* - 28/06/2010 11:59:31 AM 525 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 01:28:38 PM 507 Views
Fox - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 07:44:54 PM 411 Views
Isaac is guilty... GUILTY I SAY!! Also; - 01/07/2010 05:53:17 PM 850 Views
Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM 961 Views
dawn/dusk - no *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:35:59 PM 493 Views
Re: Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 04:33:30 PM 885 Views
Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 04:41:26 PM 868 Views
Re: Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 05:26:45 PM 889 Views
I thought so, it's why I wanted to check with others *NM* - 28/06/2010 06:25:16 PM 558 Views
Well, first off, congratulations. - 28/06/2010 05:43:47 PM 862 Views
Congratulations! How wonderful - 28/06/2010 08:42:51 PM 883 Views
Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie - 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM 857 Views
Two things: - 28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM 927 Views
For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though. - 28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM 932 Views
Oh, well according to him - 28/06/2010 10:55:05 PM 879 Views
Also - 28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM 812 Views
We could be dealing with just a Cult. - 28/06/2010 11:42:19 PM 898 Views
Yeah, but if we got lucky... game over on Day 1 *NM* - 29/06/2010 12:25:54 AM 508 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM 428 Views
Voting record. - 28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM 942 Views
Hey, isn't this Katie's job? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:18:10 PM 520 Views
Hey, volunteer yourself. - 28/06/2010 10:47:22 PM 830 Views
I'll probably spew one out again - 29/06/2010 05:49:54 AM 829 Views
you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM 553 Views
What? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:49:47 PM 485 Views
And you've only realized that now? - 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM 852 Views
read my posts carefully - 28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM 830 Views
... - 28/06/2010 11:49:07 PM 911 Views
Okay, let's do that - 29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM 907 Views
Don't suppose you checked her posts for spoilers, did you? - 29/06/2010 07:22:13 AM 889 Views
Yes, nothing - 29/06/2010 08:20:33 AM 943 Views
*laughs helplessly* - 01/07/2010 09:21:48 AM 961 Views
I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM 924 Views
Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM 851 Views
i confessed to being the beast *NM* - 29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM 526 Views
Well, that... doesn't sound smart. - 29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM 944 Views
I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched. - 29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM 935 Views
I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM 556 Views
Actually I'm betting on a Buffy claim right now *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:44:54 PM 528 Views
I say we don't lynch - 29/06/2010 07:11:50 PM 914 Views
We should probably just wait for her claim *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:18:13 PM 521 Views
Oh, come on - 29/06/2010 04:50:09 PM 848 Views
Yep, now is probably a good time to Role Claim. *NM* - 29/06/2010 09:01:01 PM 553 Views
I think a few people might have intially thought that - 29/06/2010 10:25:06 PM 926 Views
Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM 860 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:57:48 AM 963 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM 877 Views
Then please repeat it for me. - 30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM 825 Views
I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM 887 Views
Re: I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM 882 Views
Yes, that makes more sense. - 30/06/2010 04:14:50 AM 878 Views
That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext... - 30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM 823 Views
It still worked out pretty well, as I recall. - 30/06/2010 04:30:18 AM 824 Views
I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill - 30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM 853 Views
Because it isn't like a lynch at all. - 30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM 863 Views
There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:12:37 AM 874 Views
Re: There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:21:09 PM 892 Views
the quiet ones... - 01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM 897 Views
Some advice - 01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM 821 Views
You're probably right... - 01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM 855 Views
This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon. - 02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM 911 Views
Always a good thing. *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:38:34 AM 433 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 02/07/2010 08:21:48 AM 849 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 03/07/2010 04:39:26 AM 831 Views
Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM 527 Views
Yes? *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:40:11 PM 387 Views
So, Yuna. What's your game? - 30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM 892 Views
If she's a vig, I'll be slightly disappointed - 30/06/2010 04:37:10 AM 877 Views
*laughs* - 30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM 880 Views
I don't know what kind of game you're playing. - 30/06/2010 01:11:02 PM 881 Views
Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy - 30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM 897 Views
Let me just say this: If she is a Jester... - 30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM 844 Views
I agree - 30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM 840 Views
It seems win-win either way - 30/06/2010 06:29:41 PM 884 Views
Screw the Jesters. - 30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM 941 Views
It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them - 30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM 908 Views
Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims - 30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM 920 Views
I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM 871 Views
Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM 916 Views
Jester's are awful. They ruin the game. - 01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM 926 Views
That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM 504 Views
I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts . *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM 375 Views
I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to. - 02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM 878 Views
Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM 471 Views
Hah! Awesome *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:14:33 AM 491 Views
*giggle* *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:43:25 AM 489 Views
unfortunatly im RBIRL - 01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM 825 Views
See? It's stuff like this - 01/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 815 Views
It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so - 01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM 866 Views
EBWOP: and also Artsapat! - 01/07/2010 04:57:39 PM 862 Views
I'm still here. Unfortunately... - 02/07/2010 08:30:01 AM 775 Views
It's Canada Day today! - 01/07/2010 05:44:52 PM 863 Views
any excuse for a party! *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:12:30 PM 513 Views
Testing... (Table) - 01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM 1032 Views
Huzzah! - 01/07/2010 05:20:04 PM 833 Views
Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM 863 Views
No, guess not. - 01/07/2010 05:27:58 PM 886 Views
Re: Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM 901 Views
Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 946 Views
Re: Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:42:37 PM 876 Views
hmm - 01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM 893 Views
Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM 886 Views
Re: Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM 1033 Views
I am SO cheap. - 01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM 793 Views
I donated to the site - 02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM 850 Views
There, there. - 02/07/2010 08:39:06 PM 859 Views
This allows you to instantly defeat any moral Anakin. - 02/07/2010 09:16:13 PM 752 Views
Ah, OK - 01/07/2010 06:04:11 PM 874 Views
No luck with page anchors - 01/07/2010 06:23:44 PM 880 Views
And yeah, I will quit screwing around with it in the game - 01/07/2010 06:25:38 PM 913 Views
Darth_Katie has been elected Chair - 01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM 884 Views
Can I unvote if I want? - 01/07/2010 06:41:02 PM 798 Views
Yeah, it was advocate that couldn't undo and redo - 01/07/2010 06:44:43 PM 946 Views
So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day? - 03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM 905 Views
I think we might've already? - 03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM 889 Views
I didn't miss them - 03/07/2010 08:14:15 AM 717 Views
You spelled her name wrong DK *NM* - 03/07/2010 11:53:02 AM 606 Views
I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa - 03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM 944 Views
- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM 870 Views
Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling - 03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM 913 Views
.....? *NM* - 03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM 504 Views
Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM 858 Views
Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM 842 Views
Re: Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM 931 Views
Just thinking aloud. - 03/07/2010 11:11:27 PM 854 Views
Understandable, I don't think this was a day action though - 03/07/2010 11:40:00 PM 824 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:27:52 PM 837 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:37:08 PM 1098 Views
Re: - 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM 849 Views
Maybe - 03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM 884 Views
Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table - 03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM 867 Views
That was actually a mistake my me - 03/07/2010 08:28:43 PM 896 Views
Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense - 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM 885 Views
She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM 942 Views
Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM 783 Views
Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM 938 Views
Re: Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM 823 Views
Yea! *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:12:06 AM 376 Views
Wait, we're still L-1 - 04/07/2010 01:12:55 AM 845 Views
That might do it - 04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM 882 Views
Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM 528 Views
I definitely don't want to vote her - 04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM 838 Views
Agreed... - 04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM 837 Views
Explain that - 04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM 924 Views
*cackles wickedly* - 06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM 864 Views
Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM 832 Views
Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM 855 Views
Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM 916 Views
Exactly *NM* - 04/07/2010 03:46:00 AM 612 Views
Re: Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:57:19 AM 863 Views
It means we waste a lynch though. - 04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM 888 Views
You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her - 04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM 828 Views
I'm not assuming that - 04/07/2010 04:40:06 PM 907 Views
Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me. - 04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM 932 Views
If it's a vote steal, rather than a block... - 04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM 810 Views
I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction. - 04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM 822 Views
Don't know if that would work... - 04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM 874 Views
We could try, at least. - 04/07/2010 03:22:17 PM 860 Views
Oh sure, I agree. - 04/07/2010 06:04:20 PM 817 Views
It's Artsapat, has to be - 04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM 876 Views
I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man - 04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM 847 Views
In one of my previous mafia games, I was a vote thief - 04/07/2010 04:50:18 PM 875 Views
That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM 869 Views
Re: That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:16:34 PM 873 Views
- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM 867 Views
Actually - 05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM 891 Views
I'm fairly content with that logic - 05/07/2010 04:37:41 PM 896 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 717 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 819 Views
EBWOP: Something is wrong with my mouse *NM* - 05/07/2010 04:43:03 PM 510 Views
Yeah, that sounds pretty legit. - 05/07/2010 04:54:34 PM 901 Views
Kinda overlooked the RB comment, also, you need to unvote - 05/07/2010 05:06:59 PM 933 Views
My thoughts re: Yunalesca - 04/07/2010 06:30:41 PM 877 Views
And since people love answering questions - 05/07/2010 12:33:42 AM 878 Views
Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 06:39:39 PM 934 Views
Re: Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 07:49:10 PM 902 Views

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