That may be common, but then, presidential administrations commonly present far more of a unified front with a clear direction to the outside world than the Trump one did - and while of course all presidents clash with Congress on occasion even when it's led by their own party, the way Trump was doing it was anything but normal or common. A large part of what made Trump different from other presidents is precisely that lack of direction and focus - some other presidents may not have provided all that many ideas or direction themselves either, but at least they weren't publicly getting in the way and didn't have quite so haphazard a way of picking their Cabinet members. By trying to skip past that and looking only at the end result of the policy realizations during his first presidency regardless of who drove them and how much Trump actually helped and/or impeded their realization, you're not only giving him more credit than he deserves, but also hampering your ability to predict what might happen in the second one.

And as I've said before but not sure if it was in this thread, my points about his volatility and chaotic 'leadership' style are extremely relevant on the topic of what to expect from his second term, because they make me much less convinced than the next 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' guy that it will be all that awful. Then again, it still might be awful - it will all depend on which people in the administration manage to grab Trump's ear the most and successfully avoid getting jettisoned along the way. And judging by the way he was talking in those last months of the election campaign, I should also add that it'll depend on how his physical and mental health hold up over those four years.

I guess that's a reference to my post title above, but it's not as if I was cutting off any debate with that, I still replied to mook's points and tried to clarify my own position.

No doubt we are all biased, but I think I may say after all this time debating at wotmania and RAFO that I'm pretty good at admitting where I'm wrong and adjusting my position when given convincing reasons to do so - more so than the average person. But in this case, it seems to me that many people in the US including yourself have softened your positions on Trump not because he's done anything to deserve it, but simply because you're tired of the drama and you want to believe that he's not so bad (and probably also because you find the other side annoying).