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I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM

View original postThe entire impeachment process was a farce. If the impeachment was because Trump "illegally withheld" aid to Ukraine on the basis of his demand for an investigation into the Bidens' connection with Burisma (something that, with each passing day, sounds more and more rational), then Biden should have been impeached as VP when he illegally withheld aid to Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor investigating his son's company.

We've discussed this at length a good while ago - as I told you then, whatever boasting Biden may have been doing about it, the desire to see that prosecutor removed from office was shared between the EU, IMF, US and others and there were very good reasons for it. And if I recall correctly, part of the problem with the guy was that he was in fact failing to make much progress in the Burisma investigation. Of course, the other day Zelensky was again firing his top prosecutor and immediately you saw the same kind of stories - that the guy who's now taking over ad interim is guilty of failing to investigate his own buddies and only investigating political opponents. So seems like rather a lot of people in that position in Ukraine deserve to get fired...

But anyhow, as I said, I was actually referring to the other impeachment, the one that was for the Jan 6th situation.


View original postAs for January 6, indicting Trump will lead down a road to ruin because it will mean that every future President will be open to politically motivated attacks after leaving office. There is no political weapon employed since 2000 that has not seen general and widespread application once employed - think about recounts pre- and post-2000, the judicial filibuster, impeachment, special prosecutors, judicial injunctions of laws and statutes as the result of forum shopping for Federal judges, etc.

That's true, but on the other hand not indicting him, or the scenario where he becomes president again in 2024 and makes all ongoing/pending proceedings go away, would pretty much prove the US to be a banana republic in which presidents can get away with whatever the hell they want, as long as they manage to stay in power or get an ally in power to shield them from justice.

There isn't really any solution here that doesn't push American politics even further on their downward spiral. Or it would have to be Trump getting re-elected and then doing stuff that's so much worse that somehow, even the spineless losers that call themselves Republicans these days (which, to be clear, isn't all of them in Congress - but rather a lot) would have no choice but to put a stop to it and impeach him - though even then, seems unlikely they'd learn too many actual lessons from that experience.

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