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The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM

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Trump lunging at a secret service officer, for one. The officer himself came out to say it never happened.


Did he now? Under oath, like Cassidy Hutchinson was? Because tweets have no obligation to be honest, so I'm not obliged to believe anything seen on Twitter. He's been invited to give his statement in a deposition, which he has refused to do...
But that doesn’t matter, right, because someone heard it did from Trump’s uncle’s hairdresser’s cousin’s dogwalker.

We now have a cop who says he saw the altercation, and evidence the Secret Service deleted texts from that day. So it would matter if it was true.
You call it a straw man but it’s not - it’s literally what you’re saying when you’re calling it an insurrection. That’s what an insurrection is you entire box of tools.

An insurrection is defined as "a violent uprising against an authority or government". Success or failure is immaterial to the definitely. Was there an uprising against the government that day? I don't see how not. Was there violence, both threatened and used? Yes, with massive quantities of photographic and videographic evidence. How's this not an insurrection again?
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Prosecute Trump? fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:18:24 PM 462 Views
I would be surprised, but not shocked if there was an indictment. damookster - 14/07/2022 09:26:45 PM 144 Views
There is no way he's not running again in 2024. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:45:28 PM 156 Views
There's no way he agrees to not run fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:46:55 PM 146 Views
I fear you are right. damookster - 14/07/2022 10:17:40 PM 134 Views
Let me sum up the case. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:44:20 PM 169 Views
Word vomit that is completely false and full of irrelevant asides is not a summary fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:57:30 PM 139 Views
Lol parody account, you live in a dream world. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:20:09 PM 143 Views
Sure fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:48:19 PM 161 Views
Parody account: face reality edition Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 03:09:48 PM 147 Views
Broken record. Try another track. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 09:59:22 PM 134 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 137 Views
The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM 157 Views
As part of a device replacement program. Dragonsoul - 19/07/2022 10:12:31 PM 155 Views
It's like you're on a sugar high fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 04:50:29 AM 152 Views
This is an excellent point. damookster - 20/07/2022 05:05:27 AM 143 Views
Thanks! fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:42:09 PM 148 Views
Re: It's like you're on a sugar high Dragonsoul - 21/07/2022 02:32:47 PM 161 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 149 Views
Ugh damookster - 14/07/2022 10:21:00 PM 156 Views
It's Trump's party, like it or not. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:12:02 PM 154 Views
No. It isn't. damookster - 15/07/2022 05:04:36 PM 137 Views
LOL okay. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 09:10:36 PM 147 Views
You are missing the entire fucking point. damookster - 16/07/2022 12:53:59 AM 144 Views
No, you are. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:13:57 AM 143 Views
As will the fact that being Italian born and living in Canada means you have no dog in this hunt. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2022 02:40:09 AM 80 Views
Live in the US now son. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 01:42:41 PM 133 Views
Agreed with Dragonsoul Roland00 - 16/07/2022 07:39:57 PM 139 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:21 AM 145 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:23 AM 144 Views
That's not entirely fair AgentApple - 15/07/2022 01:10:25 PM 136 Views
Yeah, it's a tough one. Legolas - 14/07/2022 10:22:06 PM 168 Views
Yeah exactly fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 12:12:19 AM 140 Views
Why are they calling it an insurrection, not a riot ? AgentApple - 15/07/2022 09:43:09 AM 143 Views
Because if they call it a riot they have no way of trying to scare average Americans from voting Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:25:22 PM 149 Views
Because there was a plan of action and they're laying out that evidence. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:41:42 PM 148 Views
Regarding the elections... Legolas - 15/07/2022 07:28:07 PM 179 Views
as always, damookster - 15/07/2022 08:34:45 PM 156 Views
Voter ID fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 10:10:24 PM 160 Views
damookster - 16/07/2022 12:32:06 AM 153 Views
Oh please! fionwe1987 - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM 148 Views
Ha! damookster - 16/07/2022 01:51:08 AM 141 Views
I think what separates us is less policy than belief in the health of the Republican Party fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 03:44:01 PM 128 Views
Have you read the "Stop the Steal" article from the NYT magazine? damookster - 19/07/2022 06:57:24 PM 145 Views
I'd saved it for later. Half way through it now... fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:40:48 PM 137 Views
(Not elite stuff) but Part of it goes back to the 80s and the militia movement Roland00 - 21/07/2022 06:58:33 AM 123 Views
I derive some comfort from the fact that I have never voted for Trump. damookster - 21/07/2022 08:57:33 PM 129 Views
This is the single most reasonable thing I've ever read from you. *NM* Narg - 18/07/2022 06:08:35 PM 102 Views
You think Trump should have been removed from office over Ukraine? Tom - 21/07/2022 02:44:40 PM 130 Views
I share your concerns around indicting Trump damookster - 21/07/2022 08:44:20 PM 118 Views
I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM 127 Views
To Go Baroque here Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:32:27 PM 143 Views
One last thing Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:38:04 PM 125 Views
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