Active Users:472 Time:28/03/2026 07:37:17 AM
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. Dragonsoul Send a noteboard - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM

First, you need a PAL (possession and acquisition license) just to be able to have a firearm. The licenses are not easy to acquire and routinely take years to be granted (in 2019, only 4% of Ontarians had a PAL).

Second, the firearm and the ammunition must be kept in separate locations and in lock boxes away from one and other - ie. gun kept in one locked box on a shelf, and ammunition kept in a separate locked box on a different shelf. This is true even at home - so, for example, if you have a home invader and want to defend yourself or your family, you have to run and unlock one box, then run and unlock another, then load your firearm - and hope the criminal in your house doesn't have a banned weapon (like an AR-15 style rifle) and kills you or your family before you can load your gun.

Third, you are not allowed to transport the gun anywhere but to the gun range, and it must be kept locked separately from ammunition (which also must be locked) in the trunk of your vehicle. You can be charged for deviating from travel to the gun range (ie. stopping to get groceries with the gun locked in your trunk, or stopping to get gas with the gun in your trunk).

Fourth, you must register your firearm with the RCMP, who can then come by and check on it - you have no right to refuse them entry to your home or vehicle.

"But Canada is far from banning guns, but still has a fraction of gun deaths compared to America, and that's a reasonable model for America to follow."

Far from banning guns? Canada literally makes it so hard to acquire or use firearms that most people can't get them (except, of course for the criminals, who don't care about existing gun laws).

You either know nothing about Canadian gun laws (possible, you don't seem to know much about anything before talking about it) or you know about Canada's gun laws and are just trying to pass a ban off as if it's not a ban (also possible).

Your call to "regulate" guns as Canada has done would never pass constitutional muster, and "tougher laws" will only have the effect of taking guns away from people who obey the laws in the first place.

Guess what? The people committing gun crimes aren't the ones who are planning to obey the law. So you can outlaw AR-15 style guns, and someone will just buy one on the black market and shoot up a school, or they'll just use pistols, as Seung-Hui Cho did at VA Tech. Because when you're gonna murder someone, do you really care that the gun you're going to use to do it is illegal?

Regardless, like usual, you're wrong.

Reply to message
If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 2190 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 814 Views
You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational - 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM 834 Views
Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 833 Views
There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. - 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM 755 Views
Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike. - 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM 872 Views
Yes - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 744 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 812 Views
You understand two things can both be true, right? - 26/05/2022 10:19:56 PM 788 Views
In such a way - 26/05/2022 10:27:52 PM 796 Views
What Mookie said, Sense and Sensibility with Perspective - 26/05/2022 10:29:04 PM 845 Views
Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one - 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM 795 Views
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM 969 Views
Remarkable - 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM 809 Views
4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban. - 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM 768 Views
Well, that was a load of chickenshit - 27/05/2022 05:08:29 AM 801 Views
He said, running away. - 27/05/2022 11:34:19 AM 897 Views
He said, running away. - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 727 Views
You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement - 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM 900 Views
No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all... - 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM 774 Views
You just don’t get it. - 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM 941 Views
I think the same of you... - 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM 759 Views
Article VI, Clause II - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 902 Views
You're like a broken record. - 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM 865 Views
Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan. - 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM 789 Views
And? - 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM 748 Views
Lol Parody account confirmed. - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 774 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 703 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. - 27/05/2022 09:58:30 PM 886 Views
whooops *NM* - 27/05/2022 09:58:03 PM 437 Views
Oh, fuck off. - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM 846 Views
Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing? - 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM 857 Views
As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 781 Views
*NM* - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 384 Views
It is not - 28/05/2022 07:19:32 AM 779 Views
Re: Oh, fuck off. - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 747 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 749 Views
When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing - 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM 737 Views
A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 734 Views
Oh really? Then explain to me... - 31/05/2022 08:41:09 PM 763 Views
That baby isn't a baby, but that man is a woman - 01/06/2022 01:57:40 AM 897 Views
How would the world be different - 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM 796 Views
Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 963 Views
I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind. - 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM 750 Views
Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 888 Views
Well it is about respectability politics you see - 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM 763 Views
You're one of those men. - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 873 Views
Hypocrisy - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 721 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 765 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 821 Views
You started with Foreclosure - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 781 Views
Foreclosure, huh - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 779 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 392 Views
One more thing - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 776 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 735 Views
Did I trigger you? - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 670 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 721 Views
I pretty much agree. - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 891 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 359 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 782 Views
Bah - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 820 Views
Baseball twitter is bad - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 671 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 849 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 791 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 756 Views
I disagree. - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 711 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 822 Views
They already lost their balls. - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 744 Views
I am glad you protect your family - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 764 Views
But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America. - 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM 777 Views
Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people. - 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM 845 Views
And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44. - 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM 890 Views
I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 734 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 830 Views
I agree - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 717 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 806 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 912 Views
Please do not relitigate Heller with me - 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM 711 Views
I wasn’t and will not. - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 715 Views
We would scare them off that is what - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 704 Views
You chose wisely - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 772 Views
You did not. My apologies. - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 727 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 777 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 748 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 714 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 899 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 784 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 909 Views
Interesting - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 780 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 801 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 694 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 706 Views
What about trans-men - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 832 Views
an intriguing question - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 747 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 787 Views
Can the 21 year olds - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 739 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 757 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 838 Views
my bad - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 804 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 973 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 871 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 710 Views
It gets darker and darker - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 835 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 412 Views

Reply to Message