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Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM

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The only abortion question that matters is whether the fetus is a human life. If it is, then terminating it is homicide and subject to the same rigor as any other to determine whether justified or not.

If it isn’t a life then abortion is elective surgery.

Bottom line.


If this is all cannoli said, that would be something.
The wall of poop he spewed, on the other hand, is filled with so much classic slut shaming that it verges on parody.

As for your own formulation here... Yes, there's a divide on whether people believe the fetus is alive or not. But that line completely ignores that the presence of a fetus in a person's womb doesn't mean they consented to it. Rape sperm, statements to the contrary aside, is not rejected by the vagina.

So how does the neat division of fetus:human life or not play out in this scenario?

How does it play out where the life of a woman is threatened by continuing the pregnancy?

If you believe a fetus is a human being, neither of these should matter. However, it then requires you to see the woman as less than human.

So you give me a morally consistent way to behave if you believe the fetus is a live human, and then we'll talk.

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