Active Users:1170 Time:23/11/2024 01:46:08 AM
Leaves the other man saying "horseshit" fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 14/08/2021 01:05:51 AM

The concept of limited government is nonsensical. What you want is active government, one which is actively working for the good of it's citizens, and which is as directly subject to the will of it's citizens as is possible.

Mistrust of government makes sense only in a context where you've given up on democracy. You look at the sclerosis in political life and instead of saying "I need to make government more responsive to the needs of the public", you say "let's try contain the damage by making government weak enough that the public can use other mechanisms to organize itself, which we hope will be more responsive".

In the modern era, this alternative is the free market. Which, of course, is now almost completely sealed off from public needs and opinions because conservatism stopped being about anything but limiting the government to the point of dysfunction, and capturing whatever of it that was left to the control of cartels with sufficient capital.

The soul of conservatism ought to be about using political and economic power to ensure sustainable growth, by which I mean growth that doesn't inject sudden shocks into the ecosystem due to over extraction of resources or release of harmful byproducts with no regard for their effects. Of preventing overreach, whether by the market or a non-accountable government, that causes widespread ecological and environmental harm,which hurts social cohesion, freedom and stability.

The soul of Ango-American conservatism has encouraged and protected a technological ecosystem and economy that has shot massive quantities of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere with no regard for consequence, and then captured the regulatory state or weakened it to allow for continued harm.

Incremental change my ass. When you enable the destruction of human civilization, you have no fucking right to call yourself a conservative. You allow for massive change, weaken our strongest tools to curb it, or mitigate it's effects, and then want to preach about <I>incremental change</I>?

This message last edited by fionwe1987 on 14/08/2021 at 01:52:58 PM
Reply to message
One man's definition of Conservatism - 13/08/2021 10:12:27 PM 578 Views
Leaves the other man saying "horseshit" - 14/08/2021 01:05:51 AM 224 Views
sigh - 14/08/2021 09:11:48 PM 234 Views
Wait we are not talking about the Gay Tory (with a Substack) who has a hardon for Margaret Thatcher? *NM* - 15/08/2021 12:24:27 AM 91 Views
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! *NM* - 15/08/2021 03:14:42 AM 100 Views
Why did you invoke a long dead Senator then - 15/08/2021 04:05:14 AM 207 Views
Re: Why did you invoke a long dead Senator then - 15/08/2021 03:41:02 PM 184 Views
I do not want to talk about the Gay Tory - 15/08/2021 11:14:14 PM 185 Views
Re: I do not want to talk about the Gay Tory - 16/08/2021 01:54:45 PM 167 Views
I know that and I get that - 16/08/2021 04:51:37 PM 189 Views
And here I thought - 16/08/2021 05:36:34 PM 191 Views
Also Good, American Gentry Local Power and the Social Order - 15/08/2021 11:33:44 PM 305 Views
Also Good, American Gentry Local Power and the Social Order - 15/08/2021 11:33:44 PM 224 Views
I'm saying that spirit isn't worth lamenting - 16/08/2021 05:32:46 PM 176 Views
Re: Leaves the other man saying "horseshit" - 15/10/2021 12:53:55 AM 274 Views
The ism words are social constructs - 14/08/2021 03:37:25 AM 208 Views
If I had entitled this, One Man's Definition of Being Conservative - 14/08/2021 08:59:08 PM 182 Views
Brevity is not one of his strengths. - 18/08/2021 08:54:18 PM 207 Views
Greg I am tired of this - 23/08/2021 06:54:05 PM 199 Views
Someone is crabby today - 24/08/2021 03:33:14 AM 179 Views
No for you do not make it personal, Greg does. I do not measure up to his "satisfaction" - 24/08/2021 07:21:13 AM 171 Views
Measure up? I don't think of you that way. I'm sure you measure up just fine. - 25/08/2021 06:49:22 PM 184 Views
Greg you do not know me. You see less than a third of me. I am long winded in specific contexts. - 25/08/2021 07:16:12 PM 228 Views
Bring it. - 27/08/2021 08:52:11 PM 173 Views
Should I start the popcorn? - 27/08/2021 09:16:41 PM 241 Views
Re: Should I start the popcorn? - 15/10/2021 12:56:29 AM 303 Views
Why are you trying to start an invitation when I say I want to see less of you when you act this way - 28/08/2021 12:27:49 AM 193 Views
It's your choice to not reply. - 28/08/2021 02:06:13 PM 193 Views
Here is some glass for you to chew on. - 28/08/2021 05:40:40 PM 195 Views
You know, - 29/08/2021 03:50:44 PM 232 Views
Greg’s so nice / Greg’s not good / Greg’s not bad / Greg’s just nice, fuck you! *NM* - 29/08/2021 06:07:46 PM 112 Views
Try harder. Maybe fewer words. But more impactful. - 30/08/2021 11:58:05 AM 171 Views
~makes another batch of popcorn~ *NM* - 30/08/2021 02:01:22 PM 169 Views
Gurrlfriend, if I could, I would. - 25/08/2021 06:46:45 PM 184 Views
*claps* - 25/08/2021 07:16:37 PM 188 Views
It's a good description. - 18/08/2021 08:52:00 PM 233 Views

Reply to Message