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Re: a couple of points fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 01/07/2020 10:05:08 PM

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Biden and Schumer are centrists? Maybe in the same sense that Clinton and McCain were "centrists" - they are opportunists who's positions shift with the political tides. </Quote>

Thing is, how do you distinguish a principled centrist from an opportunistic one? By definition, they're going to appear indistinguishable from a weathervane. Which explains why so many people on the right <I>and</I> the left have come to abhor them.

Beyond that, what <I>is</I> principled centrism anyway? I'd like a good definition, and I haven't found one.

<Quote>Yes, Trump is awful. So is Biden. In some ways Biden is worse. Since he has virtually no chance of completing even one term if he wins, it comes down to his VP choice. Will his VP be someone we can live with as our next President? That is the biggest question of the campaign.


Yeah I'm with Legolas on this. What do you factually know about Biden's health that we don't?
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Indians are being held up as a model minority. That's not helping the Black Lives Matter movement Anonymous2000 - 29/06/2020 06:59:25 PM 882 Views
As part of the "model" minority fionwe1987 - 29/06/2020 08:18:17 PM 388 Views
How have you failed? Jeordam - 29/06/2020 10:31:17 PM 380 Views
Are we trying to assign blame and guilt, or are we trying to observe and then create a change in Roland00 - 29/06/2020 11:13:24 PM 376 Views
I still don't do enough. Silence and inaction are failure enough fionwe1987 - 30/06/2020 03:29:29 AM 354 Views
Re: I still don't do enough. Silence and inaction are failure enough Jeordam - 30/06/2020 04:51:12 PM 350 Views
I have to be honest, the privilege argument is dubious. Anonymous2000 - 30/06/2020 04:19:42 AM 397 Views
Re: I have to be honest, the privilege argument is dubious. Roland00 - 30/06/2020 05:39:30 AM 524 Views
Here you go, you can also look up the raw census data Anonymous2000 - 30/06/2020 01:40:24 PM 355 Views
Some thoughts... fionwe1987 - 30/06/2020 06:19:28 AM 379 Views
Re: Some thoughts... Anonymous2000 - 30/06/2020 02:08:10 PM 371 Views
I'm actually *very* curious of this myself.... Jeordam - 30/06/2020 04:54:48 PM 375 Views
Maybe Canada. *NM* AgentApple - 30/06/2020 06:57:01 PM 176 Views
Canada seems to have the same racial income gap issues as the US Anonymous2000 - 30/06/2020 07:29:21 PM 505 Views
It's true that part of it is just America treats all its poor people so terribly. Legolas - 30/06/2020 09:35:40 PM 340 Views
Yeah I wouldn't write off Europe fionwe1987 - 30/06/2020 11:49:32 PM 388 Views
here is an interesting article on mass incarceration in the USA. damookster - 30/06/2020 02:30:09 PM 450 Views
Wow, good stuff, thanks for posting! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 30/06/2020 02:57:08 PM 188 Views
It's disturbing to see statistical proof the system is stacked against those with limited assets. *NM* damookster - 30/06/2020 08:10:41 PM 165 Views
Interesting read indeed. Legolas - 30/06/2020 08:29:53 PM 373 Views
Not just a rich person damookster - 30/06/2020 08:51:44 PM 350 Views
I have three anecdatas aerocontrols - 30/06/2020 09:23:10 PM 377 Views
Okay... this is just like old times, when I'd often have no idea what you were getting at. Legolas - 30/06/2020 09:49:03 PM 353 Views
Old timez aerocontrols - 30/06/2020 10:02:10 PM 358 Views
The Jury Trial fionwe1987 - 30/06/2020 11:51:54 PM 358 Views
It’s easy to understand why. damookster - 01/07/2020 12:09:44 AM 338 Views
There's more fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 12:55:57 AM 335 Views
I agree damookster - 01/07/2020 02:04:50 AM 373 Views
Re: I agree vandevere - 01/07/2020 02:09:14 AM 343 Views
Guilt doesn't have much to do with it... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 03:51:05 AM 351 Views
Yes, I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. damookster - 01/07/2020 03:52:15 AM 342 Views
Oh god yes, I've heard of several instances of that fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 03:49:42 AM 356 Views
So you see that compassionate conservatives can exist? We aren’t mythical creatures? *NM* damookster - 01/07/2020 03:55:45 AM 171 Views
I sincerely hope you aren't serious about this... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 04:01:57 AM 367 Views
It was a little tongue in cheek damookster - 01/07/2020 04:20:08 AM 368 Views
Re: It was a little tongue in cheek fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 06:23:20 AM 354 Views
a couple of points damookster - 01/07/2020 07:42:32 PM 361 Views
What do you know about Biden's health that we don't know? *NM* Legolas - 01/07/2020 08:53:45 PM 192 Views
anyone who hears him speak unscripted can tell there is a big issue. *NM* damookster - 01/07/2020 09:47:20 PM 179 Views
Re: a couple of points fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 10:05:08 PM 361 Views
Mook - Fionwe is a radical. You are not. The Shrike - 01/07/2020 04:33:45 PM 353 Views
yes I suppose it was a foolish comment. damookster - 01/07/2020 05:44:05 PM 358 Views
I'm honestly not sure if.you even meant it... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 07:38:26 PM 336 Views
I kind of did when I wrote it, lame as it sounds now. damookster - 01/07/2020 07:51:21 PM 333 Views
We've found plenty of common ground fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 10:06:19 PM 325 Views
Part of real common ground, real synchronization Roland00 - 01/07/2020 11:43:49 PM 321 Views
It amuses me... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 07:03:43 PM 358 Views
You're welcome. Come again. XOXO The Shrike - 01/07/2020 07:05:11 PM 342 Views
Aww fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 07:36:55 PM 338 Views
Sweetie, we can always zhuzz it up! First we need some more glitter. The Shrike - 01/07/2020 07:39:42 PM 318 Views
Waterloo seems the most appropriate for the moment... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 10:01:33 PM 338 Views
No, darling. We're playing Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight) The Shrike - 02/07/2020 05:25:07 PM 336 Views
On drug based incarcerations... fionwe1987 - 01/07/2020 12:01:40 AM 314 Views
"most on nonviolent drug charges" aerocontrols - 30/06/2020 09:25:09 PM 360 Views
read the article I posted. That's one of 5 myths about USA prisons. *NM* damookster - 30/06/2020 09:44:19 PM 163 Views
I was reading the article just before you posted it. Probably the same google search aerocontrols - 30/06/2020 09:55:39 PM 300 Views
Regarding the Census, neither Left nor Right state that the US will remain majority White. The Shrike - 01/07/2020 04:03:57 PM 398 Views
This White/Non-White Binary choice is simplistic. And leaves no room for nuance. The Shrike - 01/07/2020 03:46:17 PM 357 Views
Absolutely right, I read an interesting article on this a while ago. Anonymous2000 - 01/07/2020 10:58:59 PM 372 Views
You have a binary choice... fionwe1987 - 02/07/2020 12:10:49 AM 331 Views
I agree with all of this, but lets think of it from a different point of view. Roland00 - 02/07/2020 12:24:38 AM 390 Views
Found the article (or at least something similar). Anonymous2000 - 01/07/2020 11:04:53 PM 341 Views
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