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Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 Send a noteboard - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM

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in moondog's post about Trump and Russia.

Seems moondog is far from the only leftist who use "casual homophobia" to attack Trump and other Republicans. It's common enough for the usually execrable HuffPost to write an article about it.

Casual homophobia is a typically contrived phrase for a perfectly good existing word: hypocrisy.


Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places. That is because of the Cohen and Manafort thing, and somehow prison rape is "part of how we see punishment" and thus prison rape jokes and so on.

This thing is vile for several reasons.
1) Even if you are the most vile person on earth you should still have body autonomy and rape is at its core a violation of the autonomy.
2) It is a form of homophobia not just about power structures but also homophobia against consensual gay sex even though rape is definition not consensual.
3) Prison rape is a serious thing for it is arbitrary and it is a real problem in prison. Yet if we joke around about it being part of our culture of punishment then no one is going to take the steps necessary to lower the occurrence of prison rape occurring in prison. (Yes there are things that can be done.)

So yeah I am dreading the next 7 days for while I will not think about it, I know I am going to see it somewhere in a media adjacent commentary.

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... damookster - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1100 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny random thoughts - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 439 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... Jeordam - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 408 Views
I don't damookster - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 420 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* ßelals Girl - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 231 Views
Say what? The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 416 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* Roland00 - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 229 Views
Re: Say what? Belals Girl - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 465 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 399 Views
Says who? ßelals Girl - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 437 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else Cannoli - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 437 Views
Agreed that they went way too far by including everyday useage of the word, sucks. damookster - 16/08/2018 02:15:54 PM 410 Views
Phobia fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 426 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? Cannoli - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 426 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 366 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 421 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 430 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 436 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. damookster - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 438 Views
No fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 410 Views
Re: No Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 443 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex Tom - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 505 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 392 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. Cannoli - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 408 Views
Regarding phobia Jeordam - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 429 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think fionwe1987 - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 405 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. Jeordam - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 389 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 422 Views
So for clarity damookster - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 415 Views
Yes! fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 412 Views
Who said I was surprised? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 403 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 409 Views
Are you asking a serious question? damookster - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 433 Views
Yes, I was fionwe1987 - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 427 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech Cannoli - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 425 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* Hieshyn - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 267 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 411 Views
But to follow up on that. LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 405 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 213 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action Cannoli - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 433 Views
I completely agree. LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 393 Views
heh, heh, heh damookster - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 402 Views
Hump it like you mean it! LiterateDog - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 434 Views
Exactly. "Islamophobia is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons." Tom - 20/08/2018 08:54:03 PM 419 Views
I reiterate that I sometimes expect it from people who may be right of center/right. The Shrike - 16/08/2018 09:52:08 PM 433 Views
About the casual part fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 390 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming Tom - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 465 Views
Precisely fionwe1987 - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 419 Views
You are absolutely correct damookster - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 415 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. aerocontrols - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 478 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". LiterateDog - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 390 Views
well said damookster - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 438 Views
Sigh I foresee 7 days of homosexual prison jokes in the near future in media adjacent places Roland00 - 22/08/2018 04:42:23 AM 369 Views
I think our casual acceptance of rape as part of prison is a major moral failure random thoughts - 22/08/2018 03:41:38 PM 377 Views
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