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If someone believes fornication, adultery and homosexual relations are gross sins, based on his religious tenets, that makes him a homophobe?

What universe have you been living in that this comes as a surprise to you?

If someone uses religious beliefs to justify subjugating women, would they not be sexist?

If someone uses religious beliefs to oppose interracial marriage, or evince disgust and interracial sex, would they not be racist?

The cause of phobia can be anything. External observers really cannot say. But if you are willing to state in a public forum that homsexual acts, women doing work, or the mixing of races disgust them, then yes, they are being homophobic/sexist/racist.

Let me give you an analogy. Communist China under Mao criminalized homosexuality, and enforced those laws quite stringently. If someone who genuinely believed in that Communist ideology said that they believed homosexuals belonged in jail, not because of homophobia, but because they supported the rule of law, would you give them a pass from their homophobia?

Or lets say someone in Saudi Arabia said that they weren't sexist for believing women who drive are disgusting. They believe it is a sin, per their religion. Would you say they weren't sexist for, after all, simply believing in their religious tenets?

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Interesting article in my Twitter feed last night on an issue Greg (The Shrike) brought up... - 15/08/2018 03:05:37 PM 1171 Views
I thought this response in the comment sectionwas funny - 15/08/2018 08:12:49 PM 505 Views
I was thinking about this at lunch today.... - 15/08/2018 11:43:33 PM 472 Views
I don't - 16/08/2018 12:09:32 AM 487 Views
It seemed more like moondog was making a prostitution reference to me *NM* - 16/08/2018 02:51:23 AM 259 Views
Say what? - 16/08/2018 09:47:19 PM 486 Views
It is a more of a domination / hierarchy reference I think *NM* - 16/08/2018 09:57:23 PM 255 Views
Re: Say what? - 16/08/2018 10:33:43 PM 530 Views
Yes, but there's more to it... - 16/08/2018 10:38:05 PM 467 Views
Says who? - 19/08/2018 05:05:37 AM 491 Views
However much of a hypocrite moondog is, the article, I feel, represents something else - 16/08/2018 05:51:59 AM 509 Views
Phobia - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 496 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 482 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 432 Views
I am a normal male person, who had conversations with other male people. - 17/08/2018 08:25:48 AM 455 Views
Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 512 Views
Re: Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 19/08/2018 03:23:10 AM 501 Views
You are wrong about Cannoli. - 17/08/2018 02:49:35 AM 494 Views
No - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 469 Views
Re: No - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 516 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 579 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 462 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 476 Views
Regarding phobia - 17/08/2018 06:30:51 PM 503 Views
There's a pretty simple test, I think - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 467 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 447 Views
*I* don't make the determination, liberal society did. - 18/08/2018 12:02:22 AM 488 Views
So for clarity - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 483 Views
Yes! - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 466 Views
Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:10:46 AM 468 Views
Re: Who said I was surprised? - 18/08/2018 02:32:41 AM 482 Views
Are you asking a serious question? - 18/08/2018 02:45:03 AM 494 Views
Yes, I was - 18/08/2018 01:59:48 PM 492 Views
"liberal" society does not police speech - 19/08/2018 03:31:54 AM 484 Views
You don't need to protect speech everyone agrees with. *NM* - 19/08/2018 06:02:17 PM 294 Views
It most certainly *does* police speech. - 20/08/2018 03:01:32 PM 479 Views
But to follow up on that. - 20/08/2018 03:16:07 PM 476 Views
Well, that's why we didn't stop with the FIRST Amendment *NM* - 21/08/2018 04:25:53 PM 243 Views
That's individuals policing speech, not society. Agregate individual action =/= collective action - 21/08/2018 04:25:23 PM 490 Views
I completely agree. - 21/08/2018 04:35:38 PM 448 Views
heh, heh, heh - 21/08/2018 05:00:32 PM 462 Views
Hump it like you mean it! - 21/08/2018 07:00:01 PM 509 Views
About the casual part - 16/08/2018 10:33:45 PM 457 Views
I don't think it's appropriate, but I think it's more about sexual shaming - 16/08/2018 10:35:53 PM 530 Views
Precisely - 16/08/2018 10:59:42 PM 494 Views
You are absolutely correct - 17/08/2018 02:43:21 AM 480 Views
I, for one, am glad to see this topic go flaming. - 17/08/2018 05:16:55 PM 549 Views
Yes, it is a tool used by those who should "know better". - 20/08/2018 03:14:30 PM 453 Views
well said - 20/08/2018 03:50:50 PM 500 Views

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