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But the homosexuality is not the root cause of my aversion. So I am a peccataphobe and not actually enough of one for my own good.

Homophobia has many causes. It can be a toxic sense of masculinity, it can be disgust for the act of homosexual intercourse of any sort, it can be misogyny, it can be religious belief. That your religious belief causes you to feel aversion to homosexuals doesn't in any stop you from being a homophobe, just as the religious beliefs of people who are against interracial marriages doesn't make them non-racists.


But even if your formulation is correct, you've pretty much robbed the term of all meaning, you policophobic bigot.

Sure, if accusing me of some unfounded phobia makes you feel better about your own, go for it. But I didn't define homophobia. Nor am I the person deciding that it can be rooted in religious belief.



People on the receptive end of intercourse are not the ones who "suck". The people who suck are the ones who PERFORM oral intercourse, whereas the other parties are said to have received oral sex, fellatio, cunnilingus or "a blow job".

This is embarrassing. Did you never have sex ed? When discussing sexual intercourse involving a penis, the person whose penis is inserted is called the insertive partner, and the person whose mouth/anus/vagina is receiving the penis is called the receptive partner.

Colloquially, a person may receive a blowjob, but in scientific terminology he would be the insertive partner in the sex act being described, whether it is fellatio, anal intercourse or vaginal intercourse.

Thus, the person who "sucks" is the person who is at the "receptive end of intercourse".


In which case, so what?

I explained the so what right before the sentence you chose to quote. Ie. that this is so deeply embedded into our language, and that it therefore constitutes the "casual homophobia" the author is referring to.



Which guys were those? Conversely, what prehistoric moral tradition or source of divine revelation made politically incorrect speech a sin?

Divine revaluation by whose standards? Can you prive its divinity in a court of law? If not, why is your divine revelation more valid than that of another?

Also, why does a moral tradition from prehistory carry more weight? We don't even know if there was prehistoric tradition of opprobrium over homosexuality, but even if there was, we are not in prehistory, we are in the now.



And so flawed is your reading comprehension that you don't even see the difference. Whom was I calling out or condemning for their homosexuality?

Why do you have to call out any specific person's homosexuality for the comparison to matter?
To put it another way, would your assessment of this article as another permutation of virtue signaling have been different if the author didn't specifically refer to people who committed the "sin" he's discussing, but instead just generally stated his opinions on it?


I don't even know for sure than any of the self-identified homosexuals in our community commit the sinful acts in question, and unless they are doing them in public, are NOT my business.

It wouldn't be your business even if they were, unless they did it in front of you. In that unlikely event, would it even matter if the act was homosexual or heterosexual in nature? If it does matter, what is your rationale for the acceptance of public heterosexual sex, but not homosexual acts?


Nor do I attempt to invalidate their positions by citing their apparent alignments.

Neither is the author of the article. He is condemning the means by which some people are criticizing/making fun of Trump/Arpaio. At no point does he say their underlying position is invalid because of the "sin" they commit in the way they express it.


Your own explanation of the suffix -phobia suggests you understand that I was explaining my views on the subject to differentiate them from phobia.

Well, they don't differentiate from phobia, but leaving that aside, your post clearly states that while you think heterosexual intercourse is alright in some contexts, such is not your view on homosexual intercourse. Are you not sanctimoniously labeling the behavior of others as a sin, here, while signaling other behavior as virtuous?

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Phobia - 16/08/2018 10:55:05 PM 425 Views
You don't even understand oral sex? - 17/08/2018 12:43:50 AM 425 Views
Get to a sex education class, won't you? Or at least, use Google - 17/08/2018 05:29:25 AM 366 Views
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Yes, yes, you're so male, your penis has a penis. We get it. - 17/08/2018 04:13:09 PM 430 Views
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No - 17/08/2018 05:41:22 AM 408 Views
Re: No - 19/08/2018 03:29:15 AM 443 Views
Cannoli is right: "sucks" implies the active party in oral sex - 17/08/2018 03:04:40 AM 504 Views
That would be the "receptive partner" in scientific terminology - 17/08/2018 05:44:16 AM 391 Views
Fuck scientific terminology. It blows. - 17/08/2018 08:26:16 AM 408 Views
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There's a pretty simple test, I think - 17/08/2018 08:02:31 PM 404 Views
Once again...who are you to make that determination. - 17/08/2018 09:54:41 PM 387 Views
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So for clarity - 18/08/2018 01:28:17 AM 415 Views
Yes! - 18/08/2018 01:46:05 AM 412 Views
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