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Sure it does. Legolas Send a noteboard - 22/06/2018 10:02:39 PM

View original postIf people were constantly outraged by Trump they might get fatigued, but they wouldn't start to approve of him.

The point is that their standards would become lower and lower as they get used to him, and things that would have been a major controversy for a normal president become just another story by now, with much less impact. It's normal for a president's approval ratings to revert to the mean - in Trump's case that obviously means going up - in the absence of any major positive or negative news items. But with Trump, people's standards have gotten to the point that it takes far more to stop that trend and push his ratings downwards than it would for normal presidents.

Though of course on the other hand it's also true that a sufficiently large number of Americans is sufficiently disgusted by him that it would take a very great deal to push his ratings above a certain level. GW Bush hit an approval rating of 80 percent or so shortly after 9/11 - that wouldn't happen with Trump even under comparable circumstances, that's for sure.

View original postUnless you assume they are actually fatigued by the media, not by Trump, and perhaps the media outrage hype is part of the reason Trump's approval rating was low to begin with.

I think we're all fatigued by the media - but it's kind of their job to report on what happens, and to put things in perspective. When the president does and says things on a very nearly daily basis that would have been very problematic for any other president - then the media has to keep pointing that out, even when it makes them sound like a broken record. The biggest problem with the media is not the way the big newspapers keep criticizing Trump - he deserves most of that. It's the way the conservative media has an instinctive reaction by now of opposing whatever the 'mainstream media' says, and hence going all in for an atrocious president who, in case you hadn't noticed, is driving the Republicans in Congress nuts and clashing with them all the time.

It should be a no-brainer, and it would have been, once, that the Republican party and the conservative movement need people like Paul Ryan a hell of a lot more than they need people like Donald Trump. But apparently they are no longer in a position where they can act accordingly anymore, and some of them don't even seem to see it. Maximum annoyance of liberals is the only real priority now - and anyone who gets in the way of that, even if it's for the purpose of trying to realize conservative legislative priorities, gets pushed aside.

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