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Are you suggesting that when the FISA application to tap Carter Page was approved, they automatically also received authorization to tap Trump himself? Or do you mean someone else by 'his associations'?
View original postFrom what I recall from the Snowden movie, when they tap someone like Carter Page they also tap all his associations.
Are you suggesting that when the FISA application to tap Carter Page was approved, they automatically also received authorization to tap Trump himself? Or do you mean someone else by 'his associations'?
And as a follow-up just for the hell of it, when Trump's appointees to the DoJ renewed the application to keep tapping Carter Page, do you figure they also meant to keep tapping Trump, then?
We'll probably learn that in the coming days. Of course Snowden wasn't talking about FISA cases but obviously when they tap Page they also tap whoever is on the other end of the line.
You mean Rosenstein ? I do wonder why he renewed the application.
So that memo was released....
- 02/02/2018 06:59:35 PM
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Just reading the memo is indeed the best approach, I just did too.
- 02/02/2018 08:20:01 PM
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I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM*
- 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM
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As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? *NM*
- 02/02/2018 09:34:57 PM
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Re: As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post?
- 02/02/2018 10:37:21 PM
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With over 34,000 FISA applications just 12 (not 12,000 or 1200 or 120) were denied.
- 03/02/2018 04:07:24 PM
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Correction: "just under", not "over" 34,000
- 03/02/2018 10:08:54 PM
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I do find it very telling how many members of the media are suddenly opposed to transparency
- 02/02/2018 08:51:28 PM
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So you are saying the House Intelligence Committee SHOULD release Schiffs rebuttal of Nunes' lies?
- 03/02/2018 03:58:13 AM
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I seem to recall much incredulity when Trump claimed he was being wire tapped
- 02/02/2018 09:15:14 PM
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Er. Let me see if I'm getting this right.
- 02/02/2018 09:34:14 PM
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They did somehow tap Flynn
- 02/02/2018 10:44:55 PM
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Keep in mind Sessions wanted Rosenstein to resign
- 02/02/2018 11:28:52 PM
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Why would SESSIONS want Rosenstein fired?
- 03/02/2018 05:22:16 AM
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It was on a list of about 40 Sessions wanted fired. Probably becuase he is a lib *NM*
- 04/02/2018 12:31:13 AM
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No, they tapped the Russian Ambassador to the US, per SOP; not the FBIs fault Flynn called him.
- 03/02/2018 03:59:54 AM
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no but were they listening when he spoke to Trump?
- 02/02/2018 11:25:30 PM
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Nope, just listening to the Russian Ambassador when Flynn repeatedly called during the campaign
- 03/02/2018 04:11:27 AM
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Actually, also, seems I missed a fairly crucial point until now, as did others here...
- 03/02/2018 01:15:10 AM
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If working with a forgein agent is such a sin...
- 02/02/2018 11:22:41 PM
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You're saying oppo research should have its own kind of Jones Act?
- 03/02/2018 12:51:27 AM
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No I am saying that it seen as crimianl when one side does and no big deal when the other does it
- 03/02/2018 01:15:22 AM
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I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW
- 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM
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Actually, JEB BUSH hired the former MI6 agents firm to do oppo research on Trump during the primary
- 03/02/2018 04:03:08 AM
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Sometimes I forget how right-wing most everyone here is. 
The memo itself is just nonsense.
- 03/02/2018 02:44:16 AM
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The memo itself is just nonsense.
- 03/02/2018 02:44:16 AM
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Ironic, since Republicans Mueller, Comey and Wray threatened to resign over Ws warrantless taps
- 03/02/2018 04:07:10 AM
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I can't speak for the present with too much information is unknown
- 03/02/2018 04:51:14 AM
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The memo is clearly not nonsense to the extent it shows abuse within the FBI.
- 03/02/2018 10:15:49 PM
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Fruit of the poisonous tree wouldn't apply here, though.
- 04/02/2018 05:40:44 AM
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- 04/02/2018 05:40:44 AM
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I would certainly argue it
- 05/02/2018 04:55:18 PM
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I think you'd win! Insofar as you'd get the FISA warrant excluded.
- 07/02/2018 07:01:42 AM
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Actually, everyone I have seen exposing the material falsehoods Nunes invented are Republicans
- 03/02/2018 03:54:03 AM
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Dear Joel,
- 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM
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I have
- 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM
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Don't feed the Joel.
- 03/02/2018 10:17:12 PM
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Turn him to any cause of policy, The Gordian Knot of it he will tangle, Familiar as his garter
- 03/02/2018 10:51:36 PM
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I sort of want to like this, but your answers keep getting weirder and weirder *NM*
- 06/02/2018 09:17:42 PM
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WSJ source
- 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM
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You believe the commie liberals at Rupert Murdochs Wall Street Journal? 
- 03/02/2018 05:14:08 AM
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- 03/02/2018 05:14:08 AM
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well as long as you have an unnaamed source it must be true *NM*
- 04/02/2018 01:05:36 AM
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What is yours?
- 04/02/2018 04:30:51 PM
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We are having completely different conversations right now, and completely different things we are
- 04/02/2018 11:38:35 PM
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Yeah, look what happens when you shit on the Fourth Amendment.
- 03/02/2018 09:09:00 PM
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Right, because the President of the United States is just a private citizen
- 04/02/2018 08:08:32 AM
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The point was that the people in power want the Fourth Amendment to apply, or not, as they see fit.
- 06/02/2018 08:16:19 PM
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Does anybody still cares about the Nunes memo? I ask for the Schiff memo was released?
- 26/02/2018 11:14:51 PM
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