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Re: You're going to have to elaborate on that one... Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 21/12/2017 09:45:09 PM

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What about people who didn't see any deconstruction or anything particularly clever in any way about the movie at all?

Well, they're boring.


I think the movie is a bit ham-fistedly deconstructing what it means to be Star Wars (how many times do we hear Kylo Ren say 'Let go of the past; kill it if you have to"?). Part of that is severing Skywalker from Star Wars. A lot of the movie is about giving us the real Luke Skywalker, not the legendary Luke Skywalker. It reminds me a lot of GO SET A WATCHMAN (and the fan reaction to that book), where Atticus is revealed to be a much more deeply flawed individual than we knew in MOCKINGBIRD.

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You may have walked out a bit early... *NM* Ghavrel - 21/12/2017 09:41:00 PM 245 Views
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Re: You're going to have to elaborate on that one... Ghavrel - 21/12/2017 09:45:09 PM 452 Views
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