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And actually demonstrated a pretty noticeable (generational?) divide. There was one side that advocated for those Trigger warnings...in the hope that the very small percentage chance of people with <insert potential issue here> would be affected to such a large degree that they would potentially <insert ill-advised action here>. That's a whole bunch of potential individual potentially disturbed to such a degree that they potentially do something destructive.

There definitely seems to be a divide between those of us who went to school before this current "awakening" and those who went to school after. Maybe it is social media. Maybe it is a problem with universities. Whatever it is, I wouldn't ever have dreamed to do any of the stuff these people are doing now.


Then there was the other side which advocated for the fact that trigger warnings are unnecessary. I don't know if I'm knowledgeable enough to state the motivations.... At least from my perspective, those trigger warnings would do nothing more then create an artificial environment where an individual is warned of any and all potential idea, concept, topic, or subject that would upset them in any way, shape, or form. Seeing as how part of life is learning how to adjust to circumstances as they happen....maybe they need to toughen up.

It's much akin to a parent sending their child outside to play, but having multiple layers of Personal Protective Equipment on for any activity....all on the off chance they may get hurt in any number of ways. Sometimes that kid is going to get a skinned knee. Sometimes they will break an arm or wrist. This is life.

(Back to trigger warnings)...if that individual is so sensitive that reading a piece of literature, attending a lecture, or being asked a question is enough to <insert destructive action here>, then perhaps they shouldn't be out in the world at all. The solution does not rest with changing the world to suit them in their fragile state, but helping them grow beyond that fragile state to be suitable for the world.

~Jeordam


At the end of the day I want to see actual studies. Millions of people are going to colleges/universities. I need to see how many are negatively affected before I come down on any one side about these trigger warnings.

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Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 1007 Views
Most of us are very good at that - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 952 Views
Thanks. - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 857 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 927 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 885 Views
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Nods - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 869 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1048 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 944 Views
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Stop. Now. - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 847 Views
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Fuck you Tom - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 1015 Views
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An unnecessary tool.... - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 869 Views
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Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 494 Views
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I apologize before hand - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 883 Views
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I hate blaming things - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1060 Views
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Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 488 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 851 Views
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*NM* - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 502 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 492 Views
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Agreed with all your points. - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 929 Views
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My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 917 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 903 Views
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Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 946 Views
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Yes it is the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 957 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 949 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 897 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 809 Views
damn it *NM* - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 466 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 904 Views
Maybe, maybe not... - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 825 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 873 Views
I see this as... - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 857 Views
I kind of break them down into two types - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 979 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 885 Views
Definitely more than a bit. - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 823 Views

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