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Agreed. Tom Send a noteboard - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM

The subjectivity of it alone militates against it. What constitutes an issue that requires a trigger warning? Will books end up like pharma ads?

The Aeneid, by Virgil

WARNING: People considering suicide, people with PTSD, people afraid of Hell, people who have been the object of unwanted sexual advances, people who have had problems at sea, people whose cities were sacked, people whose family members were murdered, people jealous of the achievements of others, people who don't like Italians, people who DO like Italians, people with hippophobia, people afraid of the dark, people who have problems with duels and people with an aversion to pagan gods are advised not to read this book.

Seriously, Gabe? With all due respect, go fuck yourself. The warnings constitute spoilers so snot-nosed kids don't feel bad. Fuck them too.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2749 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 1197 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 1087 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 1093 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 706 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 1097 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 1106 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 1048 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 1092 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 1004 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 1061 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 1231 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 673 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 648 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 1065 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 1069 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 1160 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 607 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 623 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 999 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 1149 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 1152 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 1145 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 1204 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1386 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 1081 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 1145 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 1088 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 991 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 1083 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 1033 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 978 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 1007 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1205 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 1121 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 1077 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1267 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 984 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 1014 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 1090 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 1069 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 1259 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 561 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 964 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 1007 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 997 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 643 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 1178 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 1139 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 583 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 1120 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 1063 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 1040 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 1037 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 1026 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 1074 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 961 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 1017 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 982 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 1191 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 573 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 677 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 1128 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 1041 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 1022 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 1103 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 1028 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 1047 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 1047 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1252 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 1168 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1228 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 1161 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1244 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 1041 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 594 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 995 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 1087 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 1174 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 941 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 575 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 997 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 955 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 521 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 633 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 569 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 555 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 603 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 1061 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 1080 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 1056 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 1087 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 1062 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 615 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 599 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 1091 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 637 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 1117 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 1089 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 1034 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 936 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 526 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 1040 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 990 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 1027 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 983 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 1134 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 1041 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 960 Views
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