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Agreed. Tom Send a noteboard - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM

The subjectivity of it alone militates against it. What constitutes an issue that requires a trigger warning? Will books end up like pharma ads?

The Aeneid, by Virgil

WARNING: People considering suicide, people with PTSD, people afraid of Hell, people who have been the object of unwanted sexual advances, people who have had problems at sea, people whose cities were sacked, people whose family members were murdered, people jealous of the achievements of others, people who don't like Italians, people who DO like Italians, people with hippophobia, people afraid of the dark, people who have problems with duels and people with an aversion to pagan gods are advised not to read this book.

Seriously, Gabe? With all due respect, go fuck yourself. The warnings constitute spoilers so snot-nosed kids don't feel bad. Fuck them too.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2563 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 1064 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 947 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 907 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 625 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 920 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 965 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 906 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 934 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 848 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 890 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 1027 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 600 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 581 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 932 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 911 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 989 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 528 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 532 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 867 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 983 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 976 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 956 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 1047 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1206 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 932 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 1001 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 945 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 850 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 919 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 873 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 841 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 861 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1038 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 930 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 920 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1100 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 841 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 884 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 926 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 881 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 1030 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 491 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 812 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 840 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 855 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 566 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 1003 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 900 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 524 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 970 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 907 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 890 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 902 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 882 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 885 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 819 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 854 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 832 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 1026 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 490 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 603 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 994 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 897 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 876 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 942 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 891 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 872 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 859 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1095 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 994 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1053 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 1008 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1092 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 874 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 483 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 844 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 912 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 911 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 787 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 505 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 844 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 812 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 454 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 567 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 497 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 490 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 525 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 916 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 923 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 878 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 909 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 893 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 527 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 527 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 938 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 559 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 949 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 942 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 890 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 801 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 460 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 899 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 809 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 866 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 849 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 966 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 878 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 811 Views
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