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Nods Roland00 Send a noteboard - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM

I am going to sound like an asshole for saying this, but part of Privilege is assuming because an exception of a rule exists it should exist for you, and if it does not exist for you it needs to be changed to exist for you or eliminated.

The idea of trigger warnings and such is for the narrow tailored subject of people having PTSD. Which does exist, and stuff involving the environment can cause a rapid relapse of real life problems due to an "icon" / "artifact" trigger like a detailed reading of something in a class.

Now whether the trigger warnings actually help or harm PTSD is another conversation. Furthermore how you implement trigger warnings for PTSD is something that should be studied and we do not know how to do so in a systematic manner, it is people just making up things and trying to be prudent / conservative / cautious.

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But that is not what trigger warnings is really about anymore. It may have been this way in the original discussion / concept but in the last 3 years the issue has taken a life of its own. Literally in pop culture but also college student bodies passing resolutions these issues come from 2014 and 2015 it is like they came from nowhere and now there is a culture war.

I bring this back to the concept of Privilege for most people prior to 2014 have never heard of the concepts of Safe Space or Trigger Warnings, but once certain newspapers and websites posted articles about campus student bodies doing X then everyone had an opinion on it. Yet if you are familiar with anxiety disorders, suicide, PTSD, gay and lesbian, etc you would be generally familiar with those concepts prior to 2014 but even thoughts people would have nuance and it is hard to label specific definitions to those words for they represented abstract concepts. But once enough of a tipping point happened that it broke through the ether than everyone has an opinion on these words of safe space, trigger warning, etc.

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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2558 Views
Good article. - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 1061 Views
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This makes me especially sad. - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 898 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 625 Views
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/me steals your WSE points. *NM* - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 580 Views
Interesting - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 930 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 906 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 985 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 527 Views
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but less than 1900 vs 1920 - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 865 Views
I still have hope - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 977 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 969 Views
This article agrees with your assessment - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 1042 Views
I appreciate your amendment. - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1202 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 930 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 999 Views
Most of us are very good at that - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 942 Views
Thanks. - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 847 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 915 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 871 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 839 Views
Nods - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 858 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1031 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 924 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 917 Views
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Stop. Now. - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 839 Views
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You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 922 Views
That's reasonable. - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 875 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 809 Views
Fuck you Tom - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 996 Views
Oh come on... - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 896 Views
Oh please - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 967 Views
Re: Oh please - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 902 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 881 Views
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An unnecessary tool.... - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 848 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 828 Views
I would challenge that statment.... - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 1018 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 489 Views
Agreed. - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 990 Views
Interesting article. - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 893 Views
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Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 939 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 888 Views
I apologize before hand - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 870 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1092 Views
Oh those echo chambers. - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 991 Views
I hate blaming things - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1051 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 1005 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1090 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 868 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 483 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 840 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 910 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 907 Views
So now we are at episode 6 - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 784 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 504 Views
Yes - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 841 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 810 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 453 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 566 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 495 Views
*NM* - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 490 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 913 Views
Agreed with all your points. - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 920 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 875 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 906 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 888 Views
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Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 527 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 936 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 559 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 944 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 939 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 885 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 795 Views
damn it *NM* - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 459 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 897 Views
Maybe, maybe not... - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 804 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 859 Views
I see this as... - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 846 Views
I kind of break them down into two types - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 963 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 875 Views
Definitely more than a bit. - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 808 Views

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