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some of these would never fly here damookster Send a noteboard - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM

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And what is Nancy Lanza had decided that it was unnecessary to have a gun because the climate around her was significantly different because legislation implemented a decade ago?

Nancy Lanza enjoyed recreational shooting and hoped it would have the same calming effect on her son as it did on her. Unfortunately that didn't work out. You want legislation that makes the climate unfavorable to those who shoot for a hobby?



What if legislation prevented gun ownership in a house with someone with a diagnosed mental illness? What if legislation allowed for a registry that prevented people from stockpiling ammunition?

What if you already own the gun(s) when your child is diagnosed as mentally ill? Are they confiscated?

Registration for bullets? So whenever you go to a firing range and buy a box of bullets to shoot from your legal firearm, you have to fill out a form?



Stop telling me there's no solution to a problem that only exists in the US.

It's not that there is no solution. One has not yet been proposed by anyone that can achieve consensus.

Mook

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The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 06:07:38 PM 1988 Views
Perhaps we could also wait for the bodies to get cold before politicizing a tragedy? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:11:18 PM 570 Views
Indeed. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:32:41 PM 911 Views
yes. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:41:15 PM 919 Views
Well, to be fair, dude ain't got no crown. LiterateDog - 02/10/2017 07:43:31 PM 914 Views
I suppose lack of a crown could be disconcerting damookster - 02/10/2017 07:47:46 PM 951 Views
Does that mean uncircumcised? Tom - 02/10/2017 09:16:23 PM 874 Views
Same here. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:15:29 PM 960 Views
No. It's a willful failure of policy, just like the last thousands times. We fucking can't. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:47:16 PM 926 Views
Yes.You.Could. damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 935 Views
Because not politicizing the first thousand worked so well... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:52:09 PM 952 Views
Really? damookster - 02/10/2017 07:55:22 PM 918 Views
How much time is "enough time" exactly? Just until the next one so the clock can reset? *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:01:51 PM 528 Views
double post for emphasis. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:49:17 PM 570 Views
Oh and "also"? That comment was preemptively aimed at the very sentiment you were expressing. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:54:12 PM 562 Views
It failed. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 07:56:19 PM 529 Views
Then you misunderstood it's purpose. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 07:58:15 PM 549 Views
doubtful. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:00:38 PM 806 Views
The dick move is the continual inaction and call for silence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:05:24 PM 901 Views
One or two days would defeat your purpose? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:15:49 PM 970 Views
And what if someone goes out an shoots another 50+ people tomorrow? TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:18:31 PM 884 Views
Your post on a website with 100 active users would prevent that? *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:22:25 PM 543 Views
Just another argument aimed at silencing discussion *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:27:27 PM 536 Views
If you want discussion how about making specific points or suggestions? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:31:09 PM 894 Views
Stop attempting to prevent discourse because it offends your sensibilities. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:39:47 PM 907 Views
oh fuck off damookster - 02/10/2017 08:45:05 PM 923 Views
Oh please, the problem isn't a lack of ideas. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:04:18 PM 883 Views
You do realize that the guns used in Las Vegas may have already been illegal. damookster - 02/10/2017 09:14:47 PM 903 Views
Or it may have been modified with a completely legal $95 stock TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:30:44 PM 856 Views
Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:42:20 PM 910 Views
Re: Multiple firearm experts here have stated that audio analysis makes it unlikely... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:53:23 PM 927 Views
People who go to the bother of obtaining illegal weapons in order to kill people... damookster - 02/10/2017 09:59:52 PM 886 Views
That is why you limit access to them. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:21:32 PM 514 Views
It should be noted.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:13:19 PM 886 Views
All the more reason for federal regulation on the matter *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:49 PM 540 Views
The federal law wouldn't do much more.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:33:46 PM 915 Views
And because a law only makes a problem slightly better TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:40:00 PM 887 Views
And that would be the difference between you and me.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:45:13 PM 909 Views
You sail in the ocean blind long enough and eventually you hit an iceberg. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:51:24 PM 926 Views
Again.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:07:20 PM 926 Views
If there's an average of 1 per day, when are we not mourning? nossy - 02/10/2017 08:03:46 PM 935 Views
How about when we have better and more complete information, for one? damookster - 02/10/2017 08:11:18 PM 839 Views
A 64 year old man walked into a hotel with 10 guns TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:17:24 PM 956 Views
Which hypothesis? *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:20:51 PM 541 Views
The United States has an unaddressed problem with firearm violence. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:23:28 PM 564 Views
I agree with that premise. *NM* nossy - 02/10/2017 08:26:58 PM 522 Views
I will always agree with that, nossy - 02/10/2017 08:19:58 PM 934 Views
That was my point. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:24:56 PM 1024 Views
Eh, well nossy - 02/10/2017 08:31:43 PM 883 Views
how about something a little more tangible than "your country has a problem?" *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 576 Views
jeez, twice in one thread. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:33:13 PM 528 Views
Weirdly, I also agree with this nossy - 02/10/2017 08:42:26 PM 819 Views
See Roland00's reply. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:47:57 PM 812 Views
Again nossy - 02/10/2017 08:59:44 PM 840 Views
Nobody said "your country is stupid" TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:06:54 PM 851 Views
The "other side" is trying to use the emotions of the moment to pass things they couldn't otherwise random thoughts - 03/10/2017 11:57:38 AM 891 Views
Lets postpone the discussion to 10/10 Roland00 - 02/10/2017 08:36:57 PM 951 Views
I have no problem with discussion. damookster - 02/10/2017 08:40:43 PM 876 Views
But, but, you lose a news cycle that way! Tom - 02/10/2017 09:14:19 PM 882 Views
"And we wonder why we have shootings like this at all..." TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:40:40 PM 852 Views
Wow step away from the spicy nachos Tom *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 09:51:00 PM 599 Views
Make that 274, 3 people dead and 2 wounded in Lawrence. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 08:22:21 PM 875 Views
So what you would you say the solution would be? Jeordam - 02/10/2017 08:50:54 PM 902 Views
Exactly. *NM* damookster - 02/10/2017 08:52:53 PM 483 Views
Any number of the dozens of pieces of legislation that is proposed *every time* this happens TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:11:26 PM 988 Views
And yet, almost every time shootings happen, none of those measures would have done anything. Tom - 02/10/2017 09:22:51 PM 903 Views
Speculation and ignored macro-effects TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 09:39:30 PM 875 Views
An honest Question Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:06:16 PM 834 Views
The second amendment is part of the problem. *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:30:21 PM 565 Views
And now you just lost... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:39:21 PM 896 Views
Oh the fight is already won TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:50:00 PM 907 Views
I would disagree.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:09:36 PM 894 Views
I don't think you're very educated as to Second Amendment jurisprudence. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 12:13:27 AM 996 Views
Why let silly things like facts get in the way of a good polemic? damookster - 03/10/2017 01:24:24 AM 923 Views
And it's difficult to overstate how much they advanced its reach. Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 04:31:58 AM 928 Views
Yes I actually knew that damookster - 03/10/2017 04:37:40 AM 957 Views
Re: Yes I actually knew that Ghavrel - 03/10/2017 09:18:08 AM 913 Views
Question for you Ghav but also for any other RAFOite Roland00 - 03/10/2017 06:51:47 AM 947 Views
It's likely the Ferguson Effect. *NM* Tom - 03/10/2017 09:47:42 PM 516 Views
with a corresponding rise in gang activity and violence *NM* damookster - 03/10/2017 10:07:18 PM 544 Views
This too needs to be studied the Ferguson Effect Roland00 - 03/10/2017 10:43:02 PM 1058 Views
It was, before they first started putting limitations on it TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:35:27 AM 1010 Views
What court cases do you think are examples of the trend constricting the 2nd Amendment? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/10/2017 05:48:41 AM 494 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 909 Views
And just to say it.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:18:06 PM 910 Views
Re: some of these would never fly here TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:37:24 PM 953 Views
some of these would never fly here damookster - 02/10/2017 10:14:57 PM 823 Views
So let's work through these... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:09 PM 1145 Views
Post to my own post.....wow *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:02:19 PM 506 Views
Re: So let's work through these... TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:20:08 PM 1007 Views
Ok...let's talk Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:32:58 PM 917 Views
Re: Ok...let's talk TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:02:44 PM 1279 Views
Dialogue....good. Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:17:46 PM 922 Views
Just what kind of reaction did you expect to get with a post like this? Legolas - 02/10/2017 10:10:34 PM 933 Views
For people to think about the problem rather than token sympathies. TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 10:28:59 PM 964 Views
And the proof for that is....? *NM* Jeordam - 02/10/2017 10:41:29 PM 541 Views
Killing people is the whole point of guns. The real issue is who gets killed. Cannoli - 02/10/2017 10:55:59 PM 984 Views
No use putting someone in prison if you don't lock the door after them *NM* TheCrownless - 02/10/2017 11:04:12 PM 517 Views
But after they get out.... Jeordam - 02/10/2017 11:39:39 PM 872 Views
I don't think you're going about it in a very smart way, then. Legolas - 03/10/2017 12:23:33 AM 1038 Views
It's never the right occasion to start talking about it. TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:39:15 AM 855 Views
But he was offering Candy, how can you say no to Candy? *NM* Roland00 - 02/10/2017 10:31:24 PM 589 Views
I was going to make a post to this effect, but you preempted me. I agree 100%. Ghavrel - 02/10/2017 11:15:21 PM 908 Views
Re: The US is now 273/275 for mass shootings this year! Nargs - 03/10/2017 12:58:31 AM 907 Views
Oh please TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 05:36:12 AM 866 Views
it is like the time buses were exploding in Israel, except it is Americans who are doing it AgentApple - 03/10/2017 06:19:56 PM 1019 Views
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