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I know. And I disagree with you. nossy Send a noteboard - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM

View original postMy point was the analogy was idiotic.

It's not bad, but does depend on your PoV. If someone is stuck spinning their wheels within the system, and can't seem to get further of their own volition/skills/etc, the point is that it's not exactly their fault they have to chose between medical care for a child and eating. People who are forced to make such a terrible choice every day aren't just lazy, stupid, etc (though obv some will be), they are set up for failure. Not on purpose, but that makes no difference to the life in question. Same as the victim of a crime may have no choice, and has to deal with the fall-out, regardless.

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Case study of the damage liberalism can do - $15 Min Wage - 27/06/2017 01:54:54 AM 1535 Views
Seattle is a poor choice for a case study - 27/06/2017 05:31:18 AM 908 Views
Well, sure, but many of those non-entry level jobs are being held by baby boomers. - 27/06/2017 06:09:40 AM 894 Views
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That is an incredibly silly argument. - 27/06/2017 08:56:09 PM 864 Views
If you assume wages can't go lower... - 29/06/2017 04:52:33 AM 885 Views
Many? - 27/06/2017 12:30:39 PM 870 Views
Amen. - 27/06/2017 07:21:47 PM 837 Views
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So is life. - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 815 Views
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My father worked two jobs his entire working life. - 27/06/2017 09:56:56 PM 827 Views
We have a 40 hour work week for a reason. - 27/06/2017 10:17:15 PM 870 Views
That's a piss-poor analogy - 27/06/2017 10:23:04 PM 804 Views
How is that really relevant, then? - 27/06/2017 11:03:34 PM 785 Views
I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 581 Views
*NM* - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 448 Views
Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:20:47 AM 882 Views
Re: Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 871 Views
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Very good questions - 28/06/2017 03:01:02 PM 824 Views
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 958 Views
damn *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 520 Views
Just retire already, you luddite! *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:45:46 PM 520 Views
I wish. - 27/06/2017 09:48:02 PM 859 Views
Bad life decisions lead to bad life consequences - 28/06/2017 05:44:58 PM 806 Views
You also shouldn't respond to it by letting them die. - 28/06/2017 07:53:10 PM 830 Views
But this same arguement can be flipped by.... - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 898 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 916 Views
an apt comparison - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 788 Views
So everyone who "can't" - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 818 Views
ummm - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 748 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 861 Views
Health care and minimum wage are different discussions - 29/06/2017 05:14:07 PM 854 Views
I think nossy and I are ok with letting lazy people get by... - 29/06/2017 08:11:36 PM 828 Views
Si - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 838 Views
Who said that? - 29/06/2017 09:47:32 PM 893 Views
Who said what? - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 783 Views
There is a huge difference.... - 29/06/2017 05:10:05 PM 842 Views
Why does McDonalds keep coming up in this? - 29/06/2017 06:53:46 AM 979 Views
Nicely said. Or written. *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 484 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 512 Views
How about "all the ones we had before the 20th century"? - 29/06/2017 10:47:30 PM 968 Views
The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 807 Views
So just to put this out there... - 29/06/2017 11:12:47 PM 805 Views
Re: So just to put this out there... - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 759 Views
Yes, and me being SUCH a fan of urbanization... - 30/06/2017 03:39:51 PM 986 Views
I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 548 Views
Seems like a methodology to identify struggling operations more than one to evaluate... - 27/06/2017 10:25:30 AM 810 Views
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You are a Husky? TIL clover is one of the Huskies. - 28/06/2017 02:26:46 AM 743 Views
Re: But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 819 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 859 Views

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