Active Users:1358 Time:25/10/2025 11:33:41 AM
I know. And I disagree with you. nossy Send a noteboard - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM

View original postMy point was the analogy was idiotic.

It's not bad, but does depend on your PoV. If someone is stuck spinning their wheels within the system, and can't seem to get further of their own volition/skills/etc, the point is that it's not exactly their fault they have to chose between medical care for a child and eating. People who are forced to make such a terrible choice every day aren't just lazy, stupid, etc (though obv some will be), they are set up for failure. Not on purpose, but that makes no difference to the life in question. Same as the victim of a crime may have no choice, and has to deal with the fall-out, regardless.

Reply to message
Case study of the damage liberalism can do - $15 Min Wage - 27/06/2017 01:54:54 AM 1516 Views
Seattle is a poor choice for a case study - 27/06/2017 05:31:18 AM 880 Views
Well, sure, but many of those non-entry level jobs are being held by baby boomers. - 27/06/2017 06:09:40 AM 867 Views
That's at least in part because the minimum wage makes automation more cost-effective - 27/06/2017 11:04:28 AM 765 Views
That is an incredibly silly argument. - 27/06/2017 08:56:09 PM 844 Views
If you assume wages can't go lower... - 29/06/2017 04:52:33 AM 863 Views
Many? - 27/06/2017 12:30:39 PM 850 Views
Amen. - 27/06/2017 07:21:47 PM 818 Views
Yes, many. My office is full of them. - 27/06/2017 08:59:55 PM 766 Views
So is life. - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 801 Views
Re: So is life. - 27/06/2017 09:49:21 PM 789 Views
My father worked two jobs his entire working life. - 27/06/2017 09:56:56 PM 808 Views
We have a 40 hour work week for a reason. - 27/06/2017 10:17:15 PM 848 Views
That's a piss-poor analogy - 27/06/2017 10:23:04 PM 789 Views
How is that really relevant, then? - 27/06/2017 11:03:34 PM 757 Views
I am really enjoying this new-fangled "like" feature we have now. *NM* - 28/06/2017 12:13:42 AM 575 Views
*NM* - 28/06/2017 12:25:45 AM 435 Views
Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:20:47 AM 868 Views
Re: Personal choice - 28/06/2017 12:32:31 AM 841 Views
In theory I agree with your ideas about a living wage, however - 28/06/2017 12:16:56 PM 850 Views
Very good questions - 28/06/2017 03:01:02 PM 815 Views
FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM. - 28/06/2017 07:49:59 PM 936 Views
damn *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:29:01 PM 508 Views
Just retire already, you luddite! *NM* - 27/06/2017 09:45:46 PM 513 Views
I wish. - 27/06/2017 09:48:02 PM 840 Views
Bad life decisions lead to bad life consequences - 28/06/2017 05:44:58 PM 781 Views
You also shouldn't respond to it by letting them die. - 28/06/2017 07:53:10 PM 810 Views
But this same arguement can be flipped by.... - 28/06/2017 10:34:25 PM 872 Views
I feel like you're making my arguments for me here. - 28/06/2017 10:51:38 PM 896 Views
an apt comparison - 28/06/2017 11:09:25 PM 759 Views
So everyone who "can't" - 29/06/2017 09:49:41 AM 804 Views
ummm - 29/06/2017 02:06:54 PM 730 Views
I know. And I disagree with you. - 29/06/2017 04:58:45 PM 843 Views
Health care and minimum wage are different discussions - 29/06/2017 05:14:07 PM 822 Views
I think nossy and I are ok with letting lazy people get by... - 29/06/2017 08:11:36 PM 810 Views
Si - 29/06/2017 09:08:03 PM 817 Views
Who said that? - 29/06/2017 09:47:32 PM 875 Views
Who said what? - 29/06/2017 10:32:12 PM 765 Views
There is a huge difference.... - 29/06/2017 05:10:05 PM 824 Views
Why does McDonalds keep coming up in this? - 29/06/2017 06:53:46 AM 964 Views
Nicely said. Or written. *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:30:06 AM 477 Views
All right, so what society without minimum wage do you point to as a model? *NM* - 29/06/2017 09:39:12 AM 506 Views
How about "all the ones we had before the 20th century"? - 29/06/2017 10:47:30 PM 939 Views
The ones where hunger and scarcity were widespread? - 29/06/2017 11:04:02 PM 783 Views
So just to put this out there... - 29/06/2017 11:12:47 PM 779 Views
Re: So just to put this out there... - 30/06/2017 01:34:03 AM 746 Views
Yes, and me being SUCH a fan of urbanization... - 30/06/2017 03:39:51 PM 966 Views
I for one am entirely unsuprised. Common sense result. *NM* - 27/06/2017 06:23:01 AM 536 Views
Seems like a methodology to identify struggling operations more than one to evaluate... - 27/06/2017 10:25:30 AM 792 Views
But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 12:47:13 AM 897 Views
You are a Husky? TIL clover is one of the Huskies. - 28/06/2017 02:26:46 AM 733 Views
Re: But the traffic is the WORST. - 28/06/2017 10:38:54 AM 788 Views
Just to nitpick, Switzerland isn't exactly homogeneous. - 28/06/2017 10:28:01 PM 829 Views

Reply to Message