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It's because they have begun to eat themselves. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM

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You basically beat me to it.

I'm one of the most left-leaning and progressive-esque people on this site these days. I'm pretty much the typical SJW bogeyman. But more and more I feel like the fringe of the progressive movement (it's largely not the left, incidentally; these people don't give a shit about labor) is becoming a caricature of itself.

I spent the last two weeks arguing with multiple people on Facebook that using violence as a political tool could only end badly for the progressive cause.

For all of the screeching about "not needing allies" that these people do, they're going to find themselves really lonely at the barricades if they keep this up.


The Soviet Communists did this to themselves too in the 20s and 30s once they had defeated the "Whites". All in the name of ideological purity. It will only get worse. Denouncements. Political violence. Ostracism. Death. It will be interesting to see how this progresses. The stuff I read about college campuses is chilling. The lack of respect for free speech is especially quite troubling. Having read so much European history, I know where this can go and I do wonder if the extreme ideological militants have read their history too. Or even care if they have.

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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed LiterateDog - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 1698 Views
I will say this regarding the Democrats lack of introspection after the November loss. The Shrike - 14/06/2017 02:58:17 PM 952 Views
Totally agreed with this article... Simon - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 991 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. Tom - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 937 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 899 Views
The aim was not to scare anyone. It was to show that violence is not controllable. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:12 AM 862 Views
I thought everyone already understood that? I was wrong? Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:26:04 PM 985 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified damookster - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 967 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* Jeordam - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 547 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 930 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 856 Views
Not an accident aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 835 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 838 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him Tom - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 831 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 921 Views
I would have actually respected her more... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 796 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* random thoughts - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 555 Views
I think the gunman has more in common with people who beat their wives than Bernie Sanders Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:08:54 PM 806 Views
Do we know conclusively Bernie doesn't beat his wife? *NM* Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:54 AM 535 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1069 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides damookster - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 910 Views
Sure, I will admit that. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 860 Views
No Derek Hunter is not all knowing, he repeats the same schtick and eventually it may come true. *NM* Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:59:14 PM 527 Views
There you go again. Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 910 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... Jeordam - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 785 Views
You know what I did? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 911 Views
Good Idea.... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 817 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 881 Views
What Can I say, Derek Hunter is a publicity whore, and has made his living making culture wars Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:58:07 PM 801 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right AgentApple - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 830 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 936 Views
That's not correct. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 932 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. nossy - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 891 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 482 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD nossy - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 837 Views
Agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 919 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 920 Views
funny you would say that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 907 Views
I so miss Camilla. Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 846 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders damookster - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 938 Views
God I miss Wads Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 931 Views
D'oh! *NM* damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 522 Views
*NM* nossy - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 571 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 448 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 715 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate Anonymous2000 - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 830 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 941 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. The Shrike - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 849 Views
Yeah, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 926 Views
yes, that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 850 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 822 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 833 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 800 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 765 Views
Well, yeah nossy - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 851 Views
It's only nuts if you see the left as a single group that can be led and controlled. Legolas - 15/06/2017 09:04:05 PM 792 Views
It's nuts because the left sees everyone as a single group that can be led and controlled. aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 01:05:41 AM 679 Views
I think I understand that, actually. A libertarian friend pointed it out to me. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:30:09 AM 776 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 922 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 719 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? Tom - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1012 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 839 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? Tom - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 777 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 737 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one Tom - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 875 Views
Also, I don't mind people bluntly telling me I'm wrong when they have good reason to. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 03:24:14 AM 461 Views
Poor Weimar. The Shrike - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 803 Views
Ha! aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 776 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 887 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 905 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel Roland00 - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 856 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" Tom - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 720 Views
I unironically use some of those Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 946 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* Tom - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 479 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 778 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 923 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle Roland00 - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 849 Views
I hope this doesn't offend, but you sound like you're talking to a child. nossy - 17/06/2017 09:55:40 AM 772 Views
I fear for any child on the receiving end of whatever that was. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2017 11:02:42 AM 479 Views
You're overthinking this. Vodalus - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 908 Views
What are you even talking about? Ghavrel - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 957 Views
POC ßelals Girl - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 791 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" Tom - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 788 Views
Point of Contact aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1004 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 874 Views
I have some good needs damookster - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 792 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 477 Views
You're special no matter what. You're the only you there is. </Mr. Rogers> *NM* Tom - 16/06/2017 07:19:14 PM 454 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly Tom - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 853 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 886 Views
My opinion on this Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1049 Views
No ßelals Girl - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 780 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* Roland00 - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 479 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* ßelals Girl - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 537 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* damookster - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 483 Views
POP LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 911 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke Roland00 - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 854 Views
That is the way I started to feel about the conserative movement random thoughts - 15/06/2017 09:41:07 PM 816 Views
President Mike Pence aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 840 Views
LOL LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:56:37 PM 814 Views
Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. Vodalus - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 896 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 794 Views
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