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Maybe in RJ's head, but he didn't put enough on the page to prove it. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 01/06/2017 02:49:24 PM

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It's not something one is likely to catch in a first read through, and even a reread might just lead to a bit of head scratching,

Whereas a not-at-all-read-but-actually-listen gives you delusions about what is not actually in the books.
but once you start actually looking for it... It's all over the place.

From the prologue of EotW, to the fight at the end of TDR. Traveling was depicted as simply instant teleportation.


From the prologue of EotW to the end of tDR, Traveling was not actually depicted, only mentioned and referenced.
Like when Lanfear was following Rand around in Fal Dara. The whole "watching eyes" bit.
What evidence is there that this was going on? I don't remember anything of the sort. Did RJ or someone from Team Jordan confirm somewhere that is what was going on?
Post-retcon Traveling wouldn't of even been able to do half of those sudden jumps. But it is even more blatant when Rand himself does it. He is simply one place, and then another. Without any mention of Gateways.
The first time Rand Traveled was in tFoH, when he opened the Gateway to Rahvin in the Palace in Caemlyn. The first time he ever saw Traveling was Aviendha opening a gateway in their room. The only time he teleports is from the Green Man's place which does not obey the laws of space and time. People say it moves, by Someshta insisted that the place never moved, all that changed was the location of those who needed to find him. Just like in T'A'R, you can instantly teleport someplace, and you can get to a place you know nothing about by having an urgent need (and that need is not reproducible: you can't find the Green Man or the Eye of the World twice, just like Nynaeve & Elayne could not find the Bowl of the Winds twice). Whatever the reason and mechanism, the Green Man's place fits in with a different set of rules, which explains Rand moving from the hill where he fought Aginor to Tarwin' Gap. Note that to get from Tarwin's Gap to confront Ba'alzamon, he had to Skim.

Why it is easy to miss though is pretty simple. We the readers simply never get formally introduced to Traveling until after the retcon.
No, we were introduced by the mention of it happening in the prologue to EotW, and tended to make assumptions, such as the one you made about Rand at the end of that book.
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Wow... I never really realized how bloody MASSIVE the Traveling retcon was. Dunstan - 31/05/2017 06:59:07 AM 928 Views
Can you explain the retcon to those of us a few years out from the latest reread? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/05/2017 09:27:58 AM 319 Views
Basically in the first 3 books Traveling worked completely differently then it did from the 4th on. Dunstan - 31/05/2017 04:31:59 PM 595 Views
Maybe in RJ's head, but he didn't put enough on the page to prove it. Cannoli - 01/06/2017 02:49:24 PM 698 Views
Marvel's Nightcrawler's teleportation vs Blink's gateways Roland00 - 31/05/2017 07:04:50 PM 565 Views
The problem with that, is... Rand does it. Quite a bit actually. Dunstan - 31/05/2017 07:16:53 PM 623 Views
I really do not care but arguing for mere humor / logic sake Roland00 - 31/05/2017 08:26:10 PM 568 Views
... No, really. The difference between channeling the OP and TP is way too big to miss while in POV. Dunstan - 31/05/2017 08:39:13 PM 499 Views
But we never see a PoV character teleport from "on place" to another using Traveling Cannoli - 01/06/2017 02:38:54 PM 732 Views
Rand does it at the end of both EotW and TDR. *NM* Dunstan - 01/06/2017 06:28:58 PM 547 Views
LTT's presence in Rand's mind makes Rand a shit standard here. Vodalus - 01/06/2017 07:52:54 PM 575 Views
"Knowledge and skill" don't really matter here. Neither help him do what can't be done at all *NM* Dunstan - 01/06/2017 07:56:19 PM 476 Views
By "here" you must mean the space between your ears. Vodalus - 01/06/2017 08:03:42 PM 541 Views
No, I mean I am talking in an OOU POV, while you are being overly defensive from an IU POV. Dunstan - 01/06/2017 08:34:29 PM 597 Views
Whatever Roland00 - 01/06/2017 04:12:42 PM 488 Views
No, he didn't. It just says "He Traveled." There is no description of the mechanism. Cannoli - 01/06/2017 02:37:55 PM 591 Views
Meh. Anybody who played D&D way back then recognized Jordan employing the spells... Vodalus - 31/05/2017 10:22:54 PM 575 Views
Oh, add Plane Shift to that list. *NM* Vodalus - 01/06/2017 02:52:31 AM 327 Views
And anyone faster then a bullet MUST be ripping off Superman? Kinda irrelevant to the point anyway. Dunstan - 01/06/2017 06:42:04 AM 535 Views
I'm not taking a dig at Jordan for lifting from a game he played. Vodalus - 01/06/2017 08:13:31 AM 551 Views
"It tellsh me that you should try READING books, inshstead of listening to them" Cannoli - 01/06/2017 02:36:16 PM 755 Views
So... You'd rather just go... Dunstan - 01/06/2017 07:30:27 PM 649 Views
Re: So... You'd rather just go... Cannoli - 02/06/2017 01:01:07 AM 825 Views
What are you talking about? No one knew anything about Travelling in the first books. beetnemesis - 07/06/2017 10:01:17 PM 668 Views
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