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This is simply incorrect. Werthead Send a noteboard - 21/09/2012 02:43:46 AM
going to buy a lot of before word of mouth gets around and get paid tons of money for it.

Fact of the matter is, even when they make there own game and aren't beholden to someone else, they make shitty products.


For starters, the people at Obsidian created the FALLOUT universe and made the first two games in the series (plus the first two military spin-offs). Bethesda may have bought the licence and legally own the franchise, but Obsidian have the strongest claim to being the creators of the franchise (most notably as the FALLOUT 1 and 2 creative heads, Tim Cain and Chris Avellone, both work for them). In fact, it's much more accurate to say that Bethesda took the FALLOUT universe and made a sub-par (though still enjoyable) game set there before Obsidian made the 'actual' third game in the series.

In the case of KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC II, the game had over a third of its development time cut off by LucasArts. Obsidian argued the decision and were overruled. When the game was released in a semi-incomplete state, Obsidian requested permission to fix the missing content in a post-release patch, and LucasArts refused them permission to do so. The game itself was actually excellent, particularly the writing and the highly revisionist take on the Force, and was only let down by the missing resolution to several sub-quests and the somewhat confusing ending to the game, which only barely made sense. Particularly annoying as KotOR 2 was definitely shaping up to be the EMPIRE STRIKES BACK to KotOR 1's A NEW HOPE before it was screwed over.
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Project Eternity, anyone? - 17/09/2012 05:14:05 AM 1221 Views
The devs of KotOR 2 and F:NV? I like my games playable, thanks. - 17/09/2012 11:00:30 AM 825 Views
To be fair, Obsidian was greatly rushed by the publisher on KOTOR 2 atleast. Don't know about F:NV. *NM* - 17/09/2012 12:31:15 PM 503 Views
This is how they are still in business. They make crappy games of good franchises that people are.,. - 17/09/2012 04:14:19 PM 746 Views
This is simply incorrect. - 21/09/2012 02:43:46 AM 853 Views
+1 *NM* - 21/09/2012 06:40:23 AM 476 Views
FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS is certainly superior to FALLOUT 3. Also, not that buggy. - 21/09/2012 02:35:05 AM 955 Views
Well said - 21/09/2012 03:50:16 AM 770 Views
Obsidian's problems have always fallen at their publishers' feet. - 17/09/2012 04:20:43 PM 854 Views
For the most part, yes. - 21/09/2012 02:59:56 AM 1046 Views
Already backed it. - 17/09/2012 03:43:58 PM 868 Views
I think it's amusing they call themselves an "independent video game developer" - 17/09/2012 03:55:23 PM 792 Views
They are. They're not owned by a publisher. *NM* - 17/09/2012 04:54:43 PM 508 Views
I guess "indie" has certain connotations to it. - 17/09/2012 05:49:52 PM 801 Views
hmm - 17/09/2012 05:11:40 PM 901 Views

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