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Well said. Joker Send a noteboard - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM
Maybe the MGS story would be ridiculous to me now. MGS4's story certainly was. Then again, MGS wasn't nearly as Japanese as MGS4.

Videogames are definitely the little stepbrother of storytelling mediums right now.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 923 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 830 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 357 Views
You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 748 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 767 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 709 Views
It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 600 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 761 Views
I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 667 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 781 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 701 Views
I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 808 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 719 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 345 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 368 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 383 Views
Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 672 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 686 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 618 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 741 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 681 Views
Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 661 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 656 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 767 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 663 Views
That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 640 Views
Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 721 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 677 Views
I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 721 Views
Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 683 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 658 Views
I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 439 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 658 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 741 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 685 Views
It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 719 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 672 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 764 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 732 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 344 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 887 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 730 Views
I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 713 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 684 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 381 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 680 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 742 Views
So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 762 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 725 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 926 Views
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