And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories...
lord-of-shadow Send a noteboard - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM
..it's an interesting phenomena, to be sure.
I myself have realized over the years that a lot of people claim to love games for their stories, when in fact what they are attracted to is more experiential/identification qualities. Not plot, writing, or three dimensional characters as much as the sum of the experience of the voice-acting, the aforementioned factors, the graphics, the music, the character design, the game design's ability to get the player to empathize for or identify with the protagonist, etc.
The overall experience of progressing through a character-based game and enjoying those sort of factors often gets lumped under the label of "story," and I can understand that.
All three of the games you mentioned have terrible stories - by which I mean plots, character development - by the standards of... well, anything but a video game. But when you're judging those aforementioned experiential factors, they jump up to near the top of the pile, at least for many people.
I myself have realized over the years that a lot of people claim to love games for their stories, when in fact what they are attracted to is more experiential/identification qualities. Not plot, writing, or three dimensional characters as much as the sum of the experience of the voice-acting, the aforementioned factors, the graphics, the music, the character design, the game design's ability to get the player to empathize for or identify with the protagonist, etc.
The overall experience of progressing through a character-based game and enjoying those sort of factors often gets lumped under the label of "story," and I can understand that.
All three of the games you mentioned have terrible stories - by which I mean plots, character development - by the standards of... well, anything but a video game. But when you're judging those aforementioned experiential factors, they jump up to near the top of the pile, at least for many people.
This message last edited by lord-of-shadow on 25/09/2009 at 03:10:33 AM
So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12...
24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM
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You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot
24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM
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Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions.
25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM
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FF7?!?! You're a nutcase!
25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM
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Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point.
26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM
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I will have to disagree with this...
26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM
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Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole.
26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM
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Still, it's good for a videogame story.
26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM
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I agree, with caveat.
26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM
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New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels.
28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM
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I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM*
28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM
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What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM*
01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM
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Ah, I see. *NM*
03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM
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Say what?
04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM
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"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer."
05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM
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So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three?
05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM
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I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one
06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM
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And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories...
25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM
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The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story.
25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM
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That's basically what I meant.
25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM
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Yeah I understand.
25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM
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You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice...
25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM
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I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned...
25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM
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The grid was fine, but didn't scale well.
25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM
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I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP
25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM
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I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this.
26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM
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It's interesting....
26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM
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Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far.
26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM
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LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever?
26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM
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That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM*
26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM
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Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level.
26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM
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Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though.
26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM
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Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ...
28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM
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