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Bull. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/03/2010 06:17:17 AM
and work for a OBGYN, then you better not judge women that choose to have abortions. I met a nurse today that admitted she likes to be rude to women that have abortions at her doctors office. Thats like working for a plastic surgeon and not liking women that get breasts implants. As a nursing student I feel nurses should be above that, or if you dont agree, condemn it in your heart but treat them kindly like all patients deserve to be treated after undergoing a surgery.


It is perfectly legal to teach that condoms are not as effective as absintence in preventing the spread of disease, and has the advantage of being demonstrably true, but people are allowed to disrupt religious gatherings to throw condoms at people. It is absolutely legal to wear fur and eat meat, but people are allowed to be rude and harass people who do as such (though I note that few such activists have the cojones to bother a Hell's Angel clad head to toe in cow skin). It is perfectly legal to cut down trees, but people physically interfere with, and sabotage such activity, which costs far more money than the rudest OB/GYN nurse ever cost her patients.

If her employer does not have a problem with her attitude, or thinks that her abilities as a nurse compensate for her quirks regarding a potential infanticide, that is his business. Go to a different doctor if you don't like the service.

If people are busting into your church to throw condoms at you, call the cops and have them arrested. Being rude to people wearing animal skin is also entirely legal, but if you're doing it to patrons of a business the owner may have a few words with you. It's perfectly legal to cut down trees, and people physically interfering with or sabotaging efforts to cut down trees whose owners have approved it are breaking the law and subject to arrest and prosecution.

You know all of that, too, it just makes things punchier to ignore it. Ultimately a sneering nurse or PETA members boss decides whether to continue employing them, you're quite right. But whether it's a nurse giving women crap for abortions or a clothing store employee giving them crap for buying a mink, I doubt many business owners will long tolerate employees who discourage customers. Anyway, since when does bad behavior by one side in a debate justify it in the other? In this case maybe it's as simple as the difference between giving CARE and just giving treatment for money. Which perhaps is the real explanation for what Aisha experienced.
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If you choose to be a healthcare professional... - 25/03/2010 02:20:53 AM 820 Views
additionally (pet peeve of my OB/GYN nurses) - 25/03/2010 02:30:47 AM 604 Views
Re: additionally (pet peeve of my OB/GYN nurses) - 25/03/2010 02:54:40 AM 442 Views
Don't take this the wrong way, but the world would be a better place if stupid people reproduce less - 25/03/2010 03:46:12 AM 392 Views
That's fine, but they don't need to baby talk. - 25/03/2010 12:00:46 PM 372 Views
Re: That's fine, but they don't need to baby talk. - 25/03/2010 09:52:06 PM 340 Views
Kindly blow it out your ass until the other side returns the favor. - 25/03/2010 05:07:35 AM 529 Views
Bull. - 25/03/2010 06:17:17 AM 517 Views
Then she gets fired. If it is fine with the employer, then that's it. *NM* - 25/03/2010 09:50:16 PM 170 Views
With that I'm inclined to agree, on all counts. - 29/03/2010 12:50:40 PM 467 Views
Wow. Just wow. - 25/03/2010 07:50:44 AM 508 Views
Er... who's talking about legality? - 25/03/2010 07:58:37 AM 363 Views
To the contrary, - 25/03/2010 01:38:34 PM 396 Views
Re: To the contrary, - 25/03/2010 05:09:51 PM 371 Views
Re: To the contrary, - 25/03/2010 05:35:29 PM 364 Views
Re: To the contrary, - 25/03/2010 11:02:30 PM 381 Views
Re: To the contrary, - 25/03/2010 09:48:25 PM 367 Views
- 25/03/2010 09:47:32 AM 372 Views
Now that is a healthcare unprofessional. - 25/03/2010 07:25:41 PM 360 Views
Heh... You said it. - 25/03/2010 11:41:54 PM 409 Views
indeed i shall be that - 26/03/2010 02:03:35 AM 343 Views
As long as the required service is being provided... - 26/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 386 Views
Gah... That's trash talk even Shaq would not condone - 26/03/2010 11:51:48 AM 364 Views
What I'm suggesting is this: - 26/03/2010 01:12:56 PM 344 Views
Not really - 26/03/2010 01:34:10 PM 361 Views
I agree - 26/03/2010 01:41:31 PM 391 Views
That's just stupid. - 26/03/2010 02:33:02 PM 359 Views
Do you understand what "service" is? - 26/03/2010 03:04:24 PM 389 Views
Not really. She's going there for the abortion, not the attitude. - 26/03/2010 03:13:06 PM 316 Views
So no you don't then? - 26/03/2010 03:21:13 PM 366 Views
Since when was nursing part of the service industry? - 26/03/2010 04:06:31 PM 431 Views
Since they started providing a service? - 26/03/2010 04:44:18 PM 521 Views
It says it right here: - 26/03/2010 07:41:23 PM 634 Views
Snoop, - 26/03/2010 08:29:04 PM 342 Views
...you do understand the concept of a "service" right? - 26/03/2010 07:11:10 PM 370 Views
By that definition... - 26/03/2010 07:44:04 PM 339 Views
okay then, if they are not offering a service - 26/03/2010 08:13:54 PM 332 Views
Thank you for mocking the fact that my first language is not english. - 26/03/2010 09:46:03 PM 359 Views
nothing in the health care industry is "free", not anywhere - 26/03/2010 11:44:49 PM 384 Views
It may be well known, but it works. How about this one, porca inglese? - 27/03/2010 02:40:04 AM 351 Views
something YOU seem to be too stupid to understand - 27/03/2010 03:06:53 AM 329 Views
Right. - 27/03/2010 04:56:29 AM 441 Views
Um. - 27/03/2010 10:24:31 AM 416 Views
So, you really don't think employers should/could fire people for being rude? - 26/03/2010 05:56:05 PM 355 Views
And somehow it never happens. - 26/03/2010 07:45:48 PM 341 Views
how do you define service? - 26/03/2010 12:33:37 PM 310 Views
And yet there is no body to enforce this new view amung doctors. - 26/03/2010 01:14:11 PM 373 Views
so because there's no enforcement... - 26/03/2010 02:44:58 PM 327 Views
Well, no. - 26/03/2010 03:11:47 PM 340 Views
we aren't saying that the nurse is breaking laws or anything. - 26/03/2010 03:37:56 PM 302 Views
And yet... - 26/03/2010 04:08:05 PM 322 Views
so you're fine with a doctor treating you like crap? - 26/03/2010 07:07:33 PM 319 Views
Re: so you're fine with a doctor treating you like crap? - 26/03/2010 07:49:15 PM 310 Views
Re: so you're fine with a doctor treating you like crap? - 26/03/2010 08:20:56 PM 330 Views
Learn to read your own language. - 26/03/2010 09:47:54 PM 351 Views
You're being as rude as a doctor - 27/03/2010 12:48:52 AM 342 Views
When she mocks my english repeadatly, it's what she gets. - 27/03/2010 02:43:49 AM 484 Views
your english is not mocked more than a native speakers would be - 27/03/2010 03:08:16 AM 318 Views
Re: your english is not mocked more than a native speakers would be - 27/03/2010 04:54:04 AM 312 Views

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