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The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM
Namely, that calling something "black music" means that only black people (are supposed to) enjoy listening to it. Can't it mean that a) it originated among black people, and/or b) most artists within the genre are black, without implying c) it appeals exclusively (or even just mostly) to black listeners?

And I think it's unduly restrictive in each case. Most (but far from all) jazz musicians are black and most (but far from all) physicists are white; that doesn't make jazz "black" music any more than it makes physics "white" science. Only in the sense that jazz originated in Southern black culture and entered a renaissance in Northern black culture after the turn of the 20th century is the term valid, but it's moved far beyond that now, a fact we should recognize and celebrate. The days when it was born and matured were days when it WAS nearly exclusively black music because its country or origin was officially segregated in the South and unofficially in the North. America, and jazz, have grown beyond that, to the credit of both. Ignoring the political reality, the musical reality is that jazz is both too widely accessible and too influential in other musical genres to be so narrowly defined.
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Is it racist?: Commercial for Jazz/Soul radio - 22/03/2010 01:47:45 PM 2685 Views
I'd say that's pretty racist. - 22/03/2010 01:53:59 PM 684 Views
I don't think it's racist at all - 22/03/2010 07:15:55 PM 714 Views
Uh. - 22/03/2010 09:36:35 PM 827 Views
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I'm not Dutch, but that was a pretty ignornant claim - 29/03/2010 07:20:09 PM 697 Views
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Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:46:15 PM 632 Views
Re: Not "higher" nor "lower," but "different" would be the word to use here - 29/03/2010 07:53:56 PM 584 Views
An illustration of Larry's point... - 29/03/2010 08:14:55 PM 652 Views
This. ~points at Larry's post~ *NM* - 29/03/2010 07:42:35 PM 399 Views
Re: This. ~points at Larry's post~ - 29/03/2010 07:57:30 PM 673 Views
Um. - 29/03/2010 08:00:54 PM 823 Views
Re: Um. - 29/03/2010 08:44:31 PM 613 Views
My question for you was on that one line that Larry responded to. - 29/03/2010 08:46:26 PM 644 Views
I was thinking the same thing as Rebekah - 23/03/2010 07:15:51 AM 689 Views
I don't see it - 22/03/2010 08:19:31 PM 680 Views
+1 *NM* - 22/03/2010 08:30:01 PM 387 Views
Re: +2 *NM* - 22/03/2010 09:53:43 PM 386 Views
Re: +3 *NM* - 22/03/2010 10:00:55 PM 361 Views
i'd say the actions in the commercial are more racist than the words - 22/03/2010 10:00:02 PM 675 Views
It would not float here in the US - 22/03/2010 10:07:08 PM 685 Views
Agreed. - 23/03/2010 05:36:14 AM 837 Views
Could you please expand on one point in your reasoning? - 23/03/2010 07:20:31 AM 682 Views
It's not race specific music if it's enjoyed/performed/presented by various races. - 23/03/2010 07:32:33 AM 916 Views
MOBO - 23/03/2010 10:20:22 AM 628 Views
Nice term, if a bit clumsy - 23/03/2010 11:10:34 AM 645 Views
The trouble lies in historical neuroses cooked in our melting pot, I think. - 23/03/2010 11:29:06 AM 679 Views
I suspect so as well - 23/03/2010 12:32:00 PM 771 Views
Well, the thing is, "American" is PURELY a culture, not a race. - 23/03/2010 01:55:59 PM 856 Views
That's part of what I was thinking - 23/03/2010 07:50:19 AM 1003 Views
Only if it's racist to mention the fact that different races exist. Which seems to be the US view. - 23/03/2010 09:24:23 AM 670 Views
Agreed - 23/03/2010 10:21:59 AM 700 Views
Not at all, the problem is when people seem to say something is exclusive to a given race. - 23/03/2010 11:51:06 AM 910 Views
I agree with some of what you say, but I think you're assuming more than is warranted. - 23/03/2010 02:33:34 PM 640 Views
perhaps not as default... - 23/03/2010 03:08:19 PM 705 Views
The term encompasses listeners, performers and presenters. - 23/03/2010 04:42:55 PM 723 Views
So it's really not about skin color any more, right? - 23/03/2010 09:12:20 PM 760 Views
it's racist and unacceptable. - 23/03/2010 09:07:10 PM 800 Views

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