Most people include congressmen/women don't understand Miranda rights,most people don't know the Law
Roland00 Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 02:08:10 AM
Most people include many congressmen/women don't understand Miranda rights, most people don't know the law, and this includes incompetent lawyers which many congressmen are. (You don't need to be good at law to be a congressman, you don't have to take an iq test or show mastery of a subject, just a good face, having ambition, and be electable.)
If you are not read your Miranda rights it doesn't prevent you from being tried. If you are not read your Miranda rights and you then incriminate yourself during interrogation than that testimony can't be used against YOU at trial. Miranda prevents self-incrimination.
It doesn't mean you can't interrogate that person, you can interrogate you them all you want. In fact we wouldn't want to read Osama Bin Laden his Miranda rights, for we would want to interrogate him, and use his testimony as evidence against other Al Qaeda suspects.
We already have enough evidence against Osama Bin Laden that we don't need to worry about his own testimony during interrogation. We already have enough evidence against him to nail him for life, and to execute him.
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And for people who don't understand this subtle fact about Miranda rights, well they don't understand enough to contribute to a debate of public trials vs military tribunals to add to the academic discussion between the two. They are in over their head, and they don't add to the discussion, instead they are just clouding up the waters and some ideologues on this subject are just pontificating.
Note I consider myself to be one of those people who believes this subject is over my head, and I am not going to pontificate about how America should have X,Y,Z and we should do A,B,C to terrorist subjects. My only opinion is that we shouldn't have legal blackholes and we should throw-away haebus corpus for this war on terror has to have an endpoint, there is no such thing as cessation of hostilities.
Military Tribunals or Public Courts, I will let the people that know better decide.
If you are not read your Miranda rights it doesn't prevent you from being tried. If you are not read your Miranda rights and you then incriminate yourself during interrogation than that testimony can't be used against YOU at trial. Miranda prevents self-incrimination.
It doesn't mean you can't interrogate that person, you can interrogate you them all you want. In fact we wouldn't want to read Osama Bin Laden his Miranda rights, for we would want to interrogate him, and use his testimony as evidence against other Al Qaeda suspects.
We already have enough evidence against Osama Bin Laden that we don't need to worry about his own testimony during interrogation. We already have enough evidence against him to nail him for life, and to execute him.
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And for people who don't understand this subtle fact about Miranda rights, well they don't understand enough to contribute to a debate of public trials vs military tribunals to add to the academic discussion between the two. They are in over their head, and they don't add to the discussion, instead they are just clouding up the waters and some ideologues on this subject are just pontificating.
Note I consider myself to be one of those people who believes this subject is over my head, and I am not going to pontificate about how America should have X,Y,Z and we should do A,B,C to terrorist subjects. My only opinion is that we shouldn't have legal blackholes and we should throw-away haebus corpus for this war on terror has to have an endpoint, there is no such thing as cessation of hostilities.
Military Tribunals or Public Courts, I will let the people that know better decide.
This message last edited by Roland00 on 18/03/2010 at 02:20:31 AM
AG Eric Holder evades questioning
17/03/2010 05:34:40 PM
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Why should he be read miranda rights?
17/03/2010 05:50:29 PM
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Why should location matter when dealing with a borderless threat like al-Qaeda? *NM*
17/03/2010 10:20:08 PM
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You'd rather he walk free on a technicality?
17/03/2010 11:28:30 PM
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18/03/2010 07:14:56 AM
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Last I checked, al-Qaeda isn't a party to the Geneva Convention.
18/03/2010 09:16:15 AM
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That only means they are not entitled to its protections - in other words, they are fair game.
19/03/2010 10:25:50 PM
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Well, I guess it depends whether you want to try him, doesn't it?
19/03/2010 11:34:34 PM
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*shrugs*
17/03/2010 11:10:47 PM
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That doesn't seem very logical
18/03/2010 12:03:21 AM
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That is honest and it wouldn't be "dumb" (I assume you actually mean stupid, rather than mute)
18/03/2010 12:19:58 AM
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It is very possible
18/03/2010 02:12:21 AM
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Re: It is very possible
18/03/2010 02:31:59 AM
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You do remember "I do not recall" Gonzalez right? *NM*
18/03/2010 02:38:48 AM
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Actually not really, I was out of the country for almost his entire tenure
18/03/2010 02:41:13 AM
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Pretty much there was some political firings of Us Attorneys
18/03/2010 02:56:01 AM
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I remember a little of that
18/03/2010 03:16:27 AM
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Gonzales flat out lied to congress
18/03/2010 03:29:14 AM
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Seems he could answer the question without evasion or producing a soundbite
18/03/2010 04:12:04 AM
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I don't think I agree with that.
18/03/2010 02:04:48 PM
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Fair enough
18/03/2010 02:40:42 PM
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You guys are forgetting the intel aspect.
18/03/2010 09:40:53 PM
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do we know how much he actually knows?
18/03/2010 09:49:50 PM
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Kinda hard to find out if he knows anything if he's dead *NM*
18/03/2010 09:56:18 PM
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that was totally not my question
19/03/2010 12:10:06 AM
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Most people include congressmen/women don't understand Miranda rights,most people don't know the Law
18/03/2010 02:08:10 AM
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I can understand why he'd want to evade answering.
18/03/2010 03:23:04 AM
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I can understand why statesman would want to avoid painting himself into a corner.
29/03/2010 02:26:34 PM
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