So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade
Joel Send a noteboard - 04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM
The large majority of millionares are self-made, not inherited. So, who are the non-working wealthy? How many are out there? How much money do they represent?
Sorry, but this seems like a typical liberal talking point. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet.....go down the list of billionares.....most are definitely part of the "working" category.
As for the H Foundation.....government data is government data and they do a wonderful job of analyzing it!
Sorry, but this seems like a typical liberal talking point. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet.....go down the list of billionares.....most are definitely part of the "working" category.
As for the H Foundation.....government data is government data and they do a wonderful job of analyzing it!

Government data, after all, is government data, and that analysis came from the government as well, rather than from a partisan think tank (for example, CBO reports won't contain references to "Keynesian fallacies" funny how much better the economy ran for us and the world when we observed such fallacious rules.

If Gates or Buffet handed in their resignations tomorrow they'd still be able to have pretty much whatever they wanted for the rest of their lives. Ted Turner didn't have to sit down with his accountants and go over his expenses before he gave the UN a billion dollars, he just did it, knowing he'd never feel the loss. Yet you're trying to tell me we need to go after the destitute people working two jobs just to break even while people like Turner and Buffet are openly stating they should be paying more tax (though they aren't stupid enough to volunteer the difference while their fellow billionaires refuse. )
Get with the times; if you really want to break the backs of the working poor that badly every far right conservative knows it's much quicker and easier to do it with a federal sales tax than by changing the income tax code.

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For Europeans who don't understand why Americans are against ObamaCare
03/09/2009 04:24:35 AM
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I'd be happy to tax top "earners" more and suffer Europes economic "collapse. "
03/09/2009 04:30:31 AM
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The US will never work with socialism.
03/09/2009 04:40:21 AM
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Re: The US will never work with socialism.
03/09/2009 04:58:47 AM
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I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown
03/09/2009 05:04:34 AM
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It's advanced beyond what it was during the Revolution, I think.
03/09/2009 05:18:22 AM
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I would say it's grown with the government
03/09/2009 05:23:52 AM
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The key is that government shouldn't be heavily involved in personal lives.
03/09/2009 05:58:39 AM
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Re: I don't think the mistrust of the government is really all that overblown
04/09/2009 03:30:23 AM
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How much more can we really tax the wealthy??
03/09/2009 04:41:14 AM
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A lot; before Reagans "reforms" we already taxed them less than any other industrialized state did.
03/09/2009 05:06:00 AM
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I hear a lot of socialism coming from you.....
03/09/2009 05:19:08 AM
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Re: I hear a lot of socialism coming from you.....
03/09/2009 05:40:32 AM
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Nice non-answer answer.....
03/09/2009 05:52:04 AM
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You want detailed answers that require detailed data I don't have.
03/09/2009 06:06:55 AM
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Here are some facts and analyses.....
03/09/2009 02:40:22 PM
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The Heritage Foundation, huh?
03/09/2009 03:01:17 PM
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The non-working wealthy? Please quantify.....
03/09/2009 03:31:58 PM
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So you accept the CBOs assessment the House healthcare bill will be $1 trillion over the next decade
04/09/2009 03:02:13 AM
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You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin.
04/09/2009 03:15:55 AM
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Re: You're so full of shit on this issue I don't know where to begin.
04/09/2009 03:59:21 AM
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Less than 200 people were said to be US persons with Swiss accounts
04/09/2009 04:16:24 AM
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And yet account for many millions of dollars; what does that say...?
04/09/2009 04:21:57 AM
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It's statistically insignificant and your hyperbole is reminiscent of screaming guests on CNN.
04/09/2009 02:07:31 PM
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Well, look at this way:
04/09/2009 02:24:03 PM
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That's not a solution.
05/09/2009 02:39:12 AM
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The Soviets weren't socialist, or even communist, so it's a false comparison.
05/09/2009 03:09:06 AM
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Okay, now you've just gone into Kool-aid drinking territory.
05/09/2009 04:32:07 AM
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Communist THEORY is predicated on democratic participation at every level,totally absent in the USSR
05/09/2009 04:55:00 AM
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Ever heard of the 20-80 rule?
04/09/2009 04:28:54 AM
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Top earners? Please define.....what income and how much more? *NM*
03/09/2009 04:52:25 AM
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That would be open to definition, and should change with inflation.
03/09/2009 05:13:02 AM
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What is your justification for taking over 50% of anyone's income?
03/09/2009 05:28:22 AM
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That's a good example of why I say the rate has to be set to cost of living.
03/09/2009 05:50:16 AM
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Still no comment on the fact that 40% of Americans don't pay any income taxes?
03/09/2009 02:32:12 PM
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To what 40% do you refer?
03/09/2009 02:42:55 PM
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Dude, you are not making this easy.....
03/09/2009 03:38:01 PM
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No one "gets money from the IRS. "
04/09/2009 02:55:02 AM
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Actually with EIC you can get money back that you never paid in.
04/09/2009 02:56:43 AM
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It MIGHT be possible with the EIC, but in practice few people get more than they paid.
04/09/2009 03:43:36 AM
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I don't know, I've known plenty of people that have gotten more back than they paid in
04/09/2009 03:46:29 AM
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Yet another example of your ignorance on tax policy.
04/09/2009 03:19:39 AM
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The word I notice is "welfare"
04/09/2009 03:57:01 AM
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I wouldn't say that's what it means....
04/09/2009 04:02:40 AM
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It's what welfare means to me...
04/09/2009 04:32:17 AM
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I was just talking about EIC as a form of welfare, not welfare welfare. *NM*
04/09/2009 04:45:13 AM
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It's a credit for people who file a return on income that's been taxed.
04/09/2009 04:19:57 AM
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It is only for the WORKING poor, yes.
04/09/2009 02:12:55 PM
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Mean it may be, but hardly illegal.
04/09/2009 02:31:16 PM
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No real comments, just 100% agree with you....plus the $12 trillion is terrifying to me. *NM*
03/09/2009 04:33:39 AM
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Excellent post - the US government is not capable of running HC.....
03/09/2009 04:40:19 AM
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It depends on your level of cynicism
03/09/2009 05:38:53 AM
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when have they ever cut the fat?
03/09/2009 08:35:36 PM
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This doesn't make sense to me.
03/09/2009 08:33:18 AM
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The key phrase is "should be. "
03/09/2009 09:38:15 AM
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In fairness, most Europeans don't seem to realize what ObamaCare is.
03/09/2009 02:34:01 PM
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As far as most people I know are concerned, opposition to ObamaCare isn't the issue.
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It's hard not to be horrified with a government as wasteful as ours
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For Americans who don't understand why Canadians like their public healthcare.
04/09/2009 04:23:11 AM
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Correction
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Re: Correction
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