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Stealing my one liners is all the rage these days. Joel Send a noteboard - 31/01/2010 02:38:54 PM
I have binoculars for star observations to make sure that it's not just a passing fad before buying a $1000 telescope. $25 and well worth it.

It's been a few years since I checked prices, but one thing you can get is a binocular eyepiece addon that provides stereoscopic views of the sky. For only $300. :rolleyes:

Most of their stuff has an attachment for a tripod adapter (there's is $15) too, which I always like when stargazing with others, then I can fix on the target just like I would with a telescope.

Amazing what an anemic economy will do for things that weren't great investments (IMHO) to begin. Anemiconomy, call it. ;)

Couldn't contrast and compare to well, I 'volunteered' to run the observatory on friday nights when I was a grad student. So I was spoiled by that and then I was in the service and just used our equipment, the M22 bino is pretty good, so's the M24 but it's meant more as a compact thing, loved using NVG's for stargazing, you can see around a hundred thousand stars. Up here in Ohio, especially near the lake where there's a lot of ambient light, you just don't get good viewing conditions compared to my last spot, Iraq, which is every amateur astronomers dream come true. I really should get a new telescope though, especially if the prices are down. They looked normal to me but I haven't really paid much attention in nearly a decade.

It's very possible I mentally added $100 to the price of the binocular viewer, too; it's been about as long since I've price checked it as it has since you did, 'cos it always struck me as extravagant anyway. But then, once you have the motor and a Schmidt corrector plate most other things just leave me thinking That's money I could've spent on more aperture. :P Can definitely see how access to a pro observatory might spoil you a bit; maybe you can get out to Yerkes some time. As you may know, it's got the first of three telescopes Hale built that were, in succession, the largest on Earth until Keck was completed (and at 40" it's STILL the largest refractor. ) Ironic there are people who actually WANT to be in Iraq (though it seems pretty crappy in terms of elevation) but then, that's where astronomy began, right?

As far as new ones go, my take is always the same: If you've got a decent sized motorized reflector now there's no reason to buy another until/unless you're ready for an 8" SCT, and no real reason for amateurs to get more unless they just have a few thousand dollars burning a hole in their pocket. It's too bad EBay's such a crap shoot, because you can often find an 8" SCT with tripod and motor for $500 or so, but wtf knows what condition it's REALLY in, or how it will arrive? I did see a good example of the price differences between various designs just now though: For what a motorized 8" SCT with database costs new, Orion will sell you a 14" Dobsonian. But you're really painting yourself into a corner with a Dob, and I wouldn't spend two grand doing that even if I could. ;)
I can definitely see the advantage of the tripod for binocs, yeah (binocs are close cousins of the mynocks, btw; most people don't know that. ;))

I'd guess the mynock connection is likely just a BS story made up by Han Solo. Yeah, the tripods help a lot for moongazing or cometwatching, obviously not ideal for meteor showers. Anyone wanting to look at Mars, this is the ideal time, it's at it's closest right now for the next two years, definetly more of a tripod sort of thing.

Han Solo has never steered me wrong; Han Solo is gold. It might've been Calrissian though.... ;)
Speaking of economical aids to stargazing, I HIGHLY recommend picking up one of these (in fact, I've basically got this very one; it just doesn't say, "Celestron" on the top: )

I have wads of software for it, all way out of date, theres a lot of freeware and shareware around too, but yeah, a good hard copy is always handy, always want to make sure it's one that's still readable in redlight, preferably with laminated pages, I just printed out the current night sky last time I went stargazing and I always have a thermos and I always rest my drink on the map so it doesn't blow away... coffee rings can definetly interfere with proper navigation.

Yeah, that's the thing, the software is great (Celestrons "The Sky" was my preferred retail one when I was "in the biz" ) but in the field it's only worthwhile if you have a laptop (not great for preserving night vision) or print out the charts in a redlight format. The one I linked has the standard skywheel on the front that you can set for time and date, but then you open it up and it has four pages of redlight maps for each season, a two page spread above and another below the ecliptic, with listings of coordinates and features printed below the maps in two columns. Also the first few pages were devoted to charts telling which planets were in what constellations for the next 5-10 years (hence mine is a little out of date, too, but it's easy to tell whether they were in retrograde and follow them through to where they should be now. ) It is laminated, 'natch. That, of course, seems to have gotten MORE expensive; we sold ours for $10 and even the fonts were the same, it just didn't have a company name on it.

BTW, I haven't forgotten our convo from the other day, I'm just waiting till I have the time for an in depth discussion to respond again.
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